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    Ohio's "heartbeat bill," which would have prohibited killing unborn children with a detectable heartbeat, went down in flames on Thursday after the Senate failed by one vote to override Gov. Kasich's heartless veto of the bill.

    The bill passed both chambers earlier this month — the House by a comfortable majority and the Senate 18-13 — but Kasich followed through on his promise to veto the bill. In Ohio, a three-fifths majority is required to override a veto, which meant that two additional votes were needed in the Senate.

    The Ohio House voted earlier today to override Kasich's veto 61-28, but the measure came up one vote short in the Senate, which voted 19-13 against the override. Sen. Frank LaRose, who was absent for the vote on the bill earlier this month, voted to override, but GOP Sen. Bill Beagle, who voted for the heartbeat bill, inexplicably defected, crossing the aisle to side with Democrats, Kasich, and Planned Parenthood, all of whom had campaigned vigorously against protecting the lives of unborn children. Beagle was joined by four Republicans — John Eklund, Matt Dolan, Stephanie Kunze, and Gayle Manning — to block the override attempt.

    PJM reported earlier this month:

    Passage of Sub HB 258 would mean that "no person shall knowingly and purposefully perform or induce an abortion on a pregnant woman with the specific intent of causing or abetting the termination of the life of the unborn human individual the pregnant woman is carrying and whose fetal heartbeat has been detected." Doctors who violate the law would be guilty of a fifth-degree felony. There are no penalties in the bill for women who choose to kill their babies. The law, if passed, would allow exceptions for procedures that are "designed or intended to prevent the death of the pregnant woman or to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman." That language ensures that doctors would not be able to flaut the law by claiming a pregnancy would threaten the mental health of the mother.

    The Senate stripped from the bill a requirement that a woman seeking an abortion must have a transvaginal ultrasound performed — which can detect a heartbeat as early as 5 1/2 weeks — in order to determine the gestational age of the child. The amended version requires only an abdominal ultrasound, which usually can detect a heartbeat at around 6-7 weeks gestation.

    The language of the bill, which had 53 co-sponsors in the House and nine in the Senate, explains that a fetal heartbeat "has become a key medical predictor that an unborn human individual will reach live birth." Cardiac activity, the bill says, "begins at a biologically identifiable moment in time, normally when the fetal heart is formed in the gestational sac." The life-affirming language codifies into law the humanity of unborn children, much to the credit of Ohio lawmakers.

    Citizens for Community Values, an enthusiastic supporter of the heartbeat bill, lamented the failure to override Kasich's veto and blasted Beagle for betraying the pro-life movement.

    “After a monumental effort by the pro-life community to override Gov. Kasich’s veto of the Heartbeat Bill (HB 258) in the Ohio House, Ohio was on the brink of enacting this life-saving bill. Yet at the last moment, one Ohio Senator flipped his vote, and the Heartbeat Bill came up 1 vote short in the State Senate," CCV president Aaron Baer said in a written statement.

    "Senator Bill Beagle (R-Montgomery, Preble, and Montgomery) voted to give lawmakers like himself a pay raise, but not to save thousands of Ohio lives every year," Baer wrote. “It is inexcusable how Beagle could vote for the Heartbeat bill in the Senate Health committee, and on the Senate floor the first time, then change his vote at the last minute. He also gave no warning to the bill’s sponsors or proponents that he changed his mind.”

    Baer thanked Senate President Larry Obhoff, Speaker Ryan Smith, and the bill's sponsors, Reps. Christina Hagan and Ron Hood, for their support.

    “The pro-life movement will carry on for another day. Thankfully, Ohio has true pro-life champions coming into the Governor’s office in the DeWine/Husted administration. Our call to state legislative leadership is to not delay in 2019. The times are urgent, and we must enact this bill as soon as possible,” said Baer.

    The current heartbeat bill is now dead, and in order for the measure to be considered again, it would have to be reintroduced and make its way through the long process of committee hearings, floor votes, and reconciliation. Mike DeWine, the incoming governor, has vowed to sign the bill if it comes to his desk.

    Baer vowed that CCV would to continue the fight to protect unborn children. "We are not going anywhere until the job is done.”

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    Man, what a crushing defeat for you.

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    Man, what a crushing defeat for you.
    Crushing defeat for every unborn child murdered in the womb. Chopped into pieces and sold to highest bidder. What a ty way to go, but you could care less.

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    Crushing defeat for every unborn child murdered in the womb. Chopped into pieces and sold to highest bidder. What a ty way to go, but you could care less.
    Since Republicans don't care about life after birth, I don't see your issue, Chris.

    Explain.

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    Since Republicans don't care about life after birth, I don't see your issue, Chris.

    Explain.
    Exactly, it's a lot more practical to be spending the taxpayer dollars on the longevity and overall health of actual living, breathing, thinking people.

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    Great news

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    yup. I had sex with a couple chicks in OH this past august, highly doubt I conceived with anyone (#pulloutRockstar) but just in case, there's this

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    yup. I had sex with a couple chicks in OH this past august, highly doubt I conceived with anyone (#pulloutRockstar) but just in case, there's this
    Oh ok

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    So are you still in NJ? Or is it Cali? I forgot

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    So are you still in NJ? Or is it Cali? I forgot
    I’m in Texas at the moment... enjoying some holidays

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    I’m in Texas at the moment... enjoying some holidays
    Nice. Texas is definitely the place to be in December/January.

    I'm back home in SA visiting my mom. it's going to be a tough 2019 and beyond for my mom, she's lonely down here since my grandma (her mom) died last month. She's looking to move back north, though. She hates SA weather (most of the year) and I don't blame her frankly.

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    Crushing defeat for every unborn child murdered in the womb. Chopped into pieces and sold to highest bidder. What a ty way to go, but you could care less.
    too bad his/her/its momma didn't abort him/her/it.

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    too bad his/her/its momma didn't abort him/her/it.
    What are you doing to save children?

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    he/she/it, your mom should've let them rip you out and chop you up... no one would've bought your spare parts.

    btw, this got keeps bugging me out of his/her/its necessity for attention. what a truly pathetic he/she/it is.

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    he/she/it, your mom should've let them rip you out and chop you up... no one would've bought your spare parts.
    So,you're doing nothing at all to save any children anywhere.

    lol kori

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    pathetic got just can't control his/her/its need for attention. right got?

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    pathetic got just can't control his/her/its need for attention. right got?
    You're the one posting about me, genius.

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    You're the one posting about me, genius.
    i'll reply to you about this point you made... i replied to chris but since you are the forum's biggest attention there is you decided to chime in.

    you're a pathetic got!

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    i'll reply to you about this point you made... i replied to chris but since you are the forum's biggest attention there is you decided to chime in.

    you're a pathetic got!
    You're posting about me, genius.

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    You're posting about me, genius.
    you're a got and i'll call you a got whenever i want to whoever i want. i didn't mention your name nor quote you you ing got. stay in your lane attention !

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    you're a got and i'll call you a got whenever i want to whoever i want. i didn't mention your name nor quote you you ing got. stay in your lane attention !
    You're posting about me, genius.

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    you're a got and i'll call you a got whenever i want to whoever i want. i didn't mention your name nor quote you you ing got. stay in your lane attention !
    gots up their got asses! gots are such goty gots!

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    You're posting about me, genius.
    no one cares got! i was replying to chris... you just want to interject whenever you can because you truly are an attention . you sit here and berate me for replying to your quoting of me when all i want is for you to ing fall of a cliff already. i don't even mention you at all yet here you are salivating for attention like the dog you are. i guess PAVLOVIAN THEORY was right after all.
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    gots up their got asses! gots are such goty gots!
    Inappropriate.

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    What are your thoughts on Kasich overall?

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