***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[skin27]

I know, Dirk was a better scorer than Duncan, was Dirk a better player than Timmy?

they have different strength offensively ..tim can dominate the paint while dirk dominates the perimeter..both can score efficiently..They are both great offensive player..

[SpurPadre]

Hopefully Rudy plays to guard him, who else can do it, Bertans?

He'd toss Bertans' salad, tbh. It's gotta be bits of Gay and White but I expect Pop to use Dante on him too.

[Fusternino]

Lot of bad takes with regards to assists-he's one of the most efficient players of all time.

That said if his ego was really that big then he would know he needs to average 5-6 APG to match MJ/Kobe. He would then be MJ but able to shoot the 3, a new GOAT.

Again, I wanted Kawhi gone after the season and felt we needed to tip our hand about draft picks to the Clippers to organize a trade about Harris/Harrell S&T/12/13. But overall, I'm just glad he's gone. Dark cloud has been lifted.

[Hoops Czar]

Jesus, I didn't realize it was so disproportionate. As someone noted above, he got it as a hat tip for his defense vs Lebron. But Timmy also played great D as always. That award clearly should have gone to Timmy.

Duncan deserved FMVP but nobody was saying the bolded when Kawhi was playing for the Spurs. See how those narratives change in an instant when a player wrongs a fanbase. The amount of irrational uneducated takes regarding Kawhi within the last year have been astounding.

[RD2191]

they have different style of play offensively ..tim can dominate the paint while dirk dominates the perimeter..both can score efficiently..They are both great offensive player..

But Dirk was better, I don't think anyone can really argue that. All I'm saying is that defense matters. If it didn't then Timmy would be put on the same level as players like dirk and webber.

[marinoman]

He'd toss Bertans' salad, tbh. It's gotta be bits of Gay and White but I expect Pop to use Dante on him too.

I forgot about Dante
If Rudy doesn’t play we’re ed

[Mikeanaro]

I know, Dirk was a better scorer than Duncan, was Dirk a better player than Timmy?

Malone was a better scorer than Duncan, was Malone a better player?
LETS MOVE HIM UP!!!
Malone is the best PF eva!
Dirk has 1 ring too!
Lets move him up!
But Duncan has 5...
that clown.

[therealtruth]

Can’t believe a top talent like this got away...sick stuff man wow

You got it wrong. You're supposed to say Kawhi is garbage and Derozan is a much better player.

[RD2191]

Malone was a better scorer than Duncan, was Malone a better player?
LETS MOVE HIM UP!!!
Malone is the best PF eva!
Dirk has 1 ring too!
Lets move him up!
But Duncan has 5...
that clown.

I know, but Timmy was a way better defender. Do you even understand what I'm talking about?

[Mikeanaro]

Lot of bad takes with regards to assists-he's one of the most efficient players of all time.

That said if his ego was really that big then he would know he needs to average 5-6 APG to match MJ/Kobe. He would then be MJ but able to shoot the 3, a new GOAT.

Again, I wanted Kawhi gone after the season and felt we needed to tip our hand about draft picks to the Clippers to organize a trade about Harris/Harrell S&T/12/13. But overall, I'm just glad he's gone. Dark cloud has been lifted.

To be in the GOAT conversation he needs to win a good chunk of rings as the leading dog.
GOATS have plenty of rings, not just some nice stats in 2 seasons.

[Hoops Czar]

To have efficiency measured you have to play a full season, not every time your tummy feels fine, thats not All Time material.
DPOY has nothing to do with scoring.
KD has like 4 scoring les, how many KL has?

I cant speak for them, but never said he was a playmaker or a great assist guy or even that he had great handles.
He is good, but he is no Lebron.
Even a clown like Klay Thompson has great nights and nobody talks about him.
53 points or so in 23 minuts if I recall correctly.

You said Kawhi had one great season. You don't have to win scoring les to have a great season. It also doesn't help to have a head coach who suppresses offensive statistics by pulling players out of games early so they stay under the radar and garner less attention longer. That's what a control freak like Pop does.

[skin27]

But Dirk was better, I don't think anyone can really argue that. All I'm saying is that defense matters. If it didn't then Timmy would be put on the same levels as players like dirk and webber.

nope, they are basically the same offensive player..it’s just that dirk can hit a 3..but both can score 30pts..

obviously duncan is better defensively..

the real question here is can you rank kawhi above curry in the all time rankings?

kawhi= great defensively and scoring

curry= much more all around offensive player and won 2 mvp’s

[RD2191]

To be in the GOAT conversation he needs to win a good chunk of rings as the leading dog.
GOATS have plenty of rings, not just some nice stats in 2 seasons.

Who said anything about GOAT?

[SpurPadre]

Most Spurs fans acknowledge that he is a great player and one of the very best in the league. What rightfully bothers us was his behavior, deception, and selfishness towards a franchise that groomed him to be the face of the franchise. And objectively, we can question his heart especially when considering he's still avoiding back to backs.

[Fusternino]

To be in the GOAT conversation he needs to win a good chunk of rings as the leading dog.
GOATS have plenty of rings, not just some nice stats in 2 seasons.

No, I agree and he would also have needed to stay here until he was 38 or so to account for low counting stats in his first three seasons. I'm just saying he could've edged MJ due to his outside shooting-if everything else held the same.

[DAF86]

Nobody on the Spurs roster can do a semi-decent job defending Kawhi one-on-one. It might be a good idea to double team him everytime down the court, tbh. If it worked against one of the best passers in the league (Jokic), it might work against Kawhi, tbh.

[offset formation]

Duncan deserved FMVP but nobody was saying the bolded when Kawhi was playing for the Spurs. See how those narratives change in an instant when a player wrongs a fanbase. The amount of irrational uneducated takes regarding Kawhi within the last year have been astounding.

But you just said this. Tell me again how irrational we are!?

[RD2191]

nope, they are basically the same offensive player..it’s just that dirk can hit a 3..but both can score 30pts..

obviously duncan is better defensively..

the real question here is can you rank kawhi above curry in the all time rankings?

Dirk was the better scorer in his prime.

Not yet, if Kawhi rings again then definitely.

[Mikeanaro]

I know, but Timmy was a way better defender. Do you even understand what I'm talking about?

Wow now you care about defense?
Dirk was an average defender 10 years ago, and ty in this BB era.

[therealtruth]

But Dirk was better, I don't think anyone can really argue that. All I'm saying is that defense matters. If it didn't then Timmy would be put on the same level as players like dirk and webber.

That's unfair to compare Dirk to Webber. He had one of the best playoff runs ever in 2011. There were no other all-stars on that team and he lead them to the championship. He's also one of only 4 players to average 25 pt/10 rb in the playoffs for his career.

[Fusternino]

Nobody on the Spurs roster can do a semi-decent job defending Kawhi one-on-one. It might be a good idea to double team him everytime down the court, tbh. If it worked against one of the best passers in the league (Jokic), it might work against Kawhi, tbh.

I think Rudy looked good against LeBron. Probably will need to play Gay/Dante to match the Kawhi/Siakam combo, tbh.

[Mikeanaro]

Who said anything about GOAT?

Fusternino.

[SpurPadre]

I forgot about Dante
If Rudy doesn’t play we’re ed

Yeah, we desperately need Rudy to play this game. Have to pull out all stops to win this game.

[skin27]

Dirk was the better scorer in his prime.

Not yet, if Kawhi rings again then definitely.

they are are the same..

Not just a ring, kawhi needs to win mvp to be there with curry in the all time rankings..

[DAF86]

I think Rudy looked good against LeBron. Probably will need to play Gay/Dante to match the Kawhi/Siakam combo, tbh.

If Pop gives Kawhi the double team treatment, which I think it's the way to go, it doesn't matter much who Kawhi's main defender is. In that case you can even give DeRozan the assignment. He might put extra effort on that end if he's given that responsability.