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    I'm gonna stir some mad replays but what the heck. I would do Vucevic for Aldridge in a heartbeat.
    Truth nuke. Me too. On the right team he'd be an All Star.

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    Trade Pau for Vucevic straight up

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    Not that fadeawayhoops isn’t a super reliable source but the same guy wrote an article a few days earlier saying derozan trade for dennis Smith jr


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    Explain in a rational way why he isn't.
    Can't score, rebound, post up, pass, or defend as well as Aldridge.

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    How would he fit and what would we give up?

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    Not that fadeawayhoops isn’t a super reliable source but the same guy wrote an article a few days earlier saying derozan trade for dennis Smith jr

    Not a rumor.

    Not insiders.

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    And a really stupid trade at that!

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    Can't score, rebound, post up, pass, or defend as well as Aldridge.
    Numbers indicate the exact opposite.

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    Can't score, rebound, post up, pass, or defend as well as Aldridge.
    Except his rebounding and passing are better... not that I'd do the trade or argue Vuc>LMA anyway.

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    I would also take Vucevic in heartbeat tbh, if it was possible. And would swap him for LA. one big factor LA turns 34 this year and Vucevic just turned 28 in October. Also Vucevic isn’t a rhythm player like LA is where he has to get consistent touches for him to start feeling good about his game. Because my only gripe with LA is the ball movement has been great as of late but the only time the ball does stick is when it gets to LA’s hands. But he’s been playing great as of late and this would never happen so yeah.

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    [QUOTE=superbigtime;9654996]Can't score, rebound, post up, pass, or defend as well as Aldridge.

    I'm not an Aldridge hater, but what you're saying just isn't true. Vucevic is rebounding at a much higher rate than Aldridge-- it's not even close. In terms of Per 100 possessions, he's also getting more points, more assists, more steals, and more blocks, with a better FG%.


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    It's not even a legit rumor, but I'd trade LA for Vucevic. Not sure I'd do it in the middle of the season though. The Spurs bare barely getting into a rythm. You don't wanna mess that up by bringing in someone new unless you're trading away someone like Gasol or Cunningham, which isn't going to happen.

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    It's not even a legit rumor, but I'd trade LA for Vucevic. Not sure I'd do it in the middle of the season though. The Spurs bare barely getting into a rythm. You don't wanna mess that up by bringing in someone new unless you're trading away someone like Gasol or Cunningham, which isn't going to happen.

    But would we become that much better? Now in a pipe dream scenario of lma,vucevic,gay and dd together would be crazy

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    Not a reputable source or believable. With Aldridge and Poeltl entrenched, suffice it to say they're not going after another rotational, much less star, big . . . and no, Aldridge can't go back to playing PF and is fine with playing C now.

    Vucevic: 20.3 ppg, 12 rpg, 3.7 apg, 53 FG%, 38 3pt%, 1.1 bpg, 1.0 spg, PER: 26, OBPM: 3.5, DBPM: 2.9, BPM: 6.5, VORP: 2.3, ON/OFF (for a lottery team): +16.9

    Aldridge: 19.8 ppg, 9 rpg, 2.2 apg, 49.7 FG%, 14.3 3pt%, 1.2 bpg, 0.6 spg, PER: 21.1, OBPM: 0.2, DBPM: 0.1, BPM: 0.3, VORP: 0.7, ON/OFF (for a playoffs team): -10.3

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    As ever, context is important. Of course Vucevic's ON/OFF is significantly better. His backup, Bamba, is a raw rookie, who's struggled for the most part. Aldridge's backup, Poeltl, is a starting caliber player.

    Also, Aldridge's rebounding is misleading. He's elite at boxing out, which is why this team has remained an elite defensive rebounding team despite playing more modern lineups.

    Vucevic has had the better (contract) season, is 5 years younger and has been less stubborn about extending his range to 3, so in a vaccuum, of course he'd be better to have going forward (Magic obviously wouldn't do it though) . . . but he's never been a better player and with Aldridge progressing the mean, unless he can maintain his current form, he still isn't.

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    Would look at a deal that included Ross. Both are free agents at the end of the season so Orlando's motivation would be to get something over nothing. Gasol would have to be moved and his expiring contract end of 2020 along with picks might do the trick.

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    Not a reputable source or believable. With Aldridge and Poeltl entrenched, suffice it to say they're not going after another rotational, much less star, big . . . and no, Aldridge can't go back to playing PF and is fine with playing C now.



    As ever, context is important. Of course Vucevic's ON/OFF is significantly better. His backup, Bamba, is a raw rookie, who's struggled for the most part. Aldridge's backup, Poeltl, is a starting caliber player.

    Also, Aldridge's rebounding is misleading. He's elite at boxing out, which is why this team has remained an elite defensive rebounding team despite playing more modern lineups.

    Vucevic has had the better (contract) season, is 5 years younger and has been less stubborn about extending his range to 3, so in a vaccuum, of course he'd be better to have going forward (Magic obviously wouldn't do it though) . . . but he's never been a better player and with Aldridge progressing the mean, unless he can maintain his current form, he still isn't.
    So refreshing. Thanks.

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    I hate when fake trade ideas are treated like actual trade rumors.

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    Not a reputable source or believable. With Aldridge and Poeltl entrenched, suffice it to say they're not going after another rotational, much less star, big . . . and no, Aldridge can't go back to playing PF and is fine with playing C now.



    As ever, context is important. Of course Vucevic's ON/OFF is significantly better. His backup, Bamba, is a raw rookie, who's struggled for the most part. Aldridge's backup, Poeltl, is a starting caliber player.

    Also, Aldridge's rebounding is misleading. He's elite at boxing out, which is why this team has remained an elite defensive rebounding team despite playing more modern lineups.

    Vucevic has had the better (contract) season, is 5 years younger and has been less stubborn about extending his range to 3, so in a vaccuum, of course he'd be better to have going forward (Magic obviously wouldn't do it though) . . . but he's never been a better player and with Aldridge progressing the mean, unless he can maintain his current form, he still isn't.
    On/off can be somewhat explained by your subs ute. How do you explain the fact that the Magic outscore their compe ion by 1.5 pts when Vucevic is on the court with lesser teamates around him, while the Spurs get outscored by 1.6 pts when Aldridge is on the court with better teammates around him?

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    On/off can be somewhat explained by your subs ute. How do you explain the fact that the Magic outscore their compe ion by 1.5 pts when Vucevic is on the court with lesser teamates around him, while the Spurs get outscored by 1.6 pts when Aldridge is on the court with better teammates around him?
    Like I said, Vucevic is inarguably having a better season. He's also playing at a level he's never approached and 35 games (considering he's 28, in his 8th season and a contract one) is not a big enough sample size to call him better than a player who's been better than him his entire career.

    Look at Aldridge. He appeared to be a s of his former self in October and November. In December, he progressed to his mean.

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    On/off can be somewhat explained by your subs ute. How do you explain the fact that the Magic outscore their compe ion by 1.5 pts when Vucevic is on the court with lesser teamates around him, while the Spurs get outscored by 1.6 pts when Aldridge is on the court with better teammates around him?
    Now Cunningham and Forbes are superior NBA starters.

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    Vucevic is such a strange case..he was a no-impact, empty stats guy for years to begin his career, yet all of a sudden all his impact metrics shot up the past 2 seasons..I don't watch enough of that terrible Magic team to know what changed, though

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    Like I said, Vucevic is inarguably having a better season. He's also playing at a level he's never approached and 35 games (considering he's 28, in his 8th season and a contract one) is not a big enough sample size to call him better than a player who's been better than him his entire career.
    I understand people thinking the sample size isn't enough. I, personally, think Vucevic is for real and that he has shown a steady improvement for a long while, as well as proving to be a solid performer for years now (this is not the first time he flirts with a 20, 10, 50% season, tbh).

    I also think his style of play would fit better on a contending team: he shoots 3s at a respectable volume and he can give you Aldridge's type of production without the need of being the focal point of the offense. He can get his by playing within the flow of the offense. He doesn't need constant touches to give you 20 and 10 and stay engaged on defense.

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    [QUOTE=R. DeMurre;9655070]
    Can't score, rebound, post up, pass, or defend as well as Aldridge.

    I'm not an Aldridge hater, but what you're saying just isn't true. Vucevic is rebounding at a much higher rate than Aldridge-- it's not even close. In terms of Per 100 possessions, he's also getting more points, more assists, more steals, and more blocks, with a better FG%.

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    Trading Vucevic for LMA has no real upside. The future C will be Poeltl, and right now VUC and LMA have similar numbers.

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    Some people watch stats. Some watch players.
    Really? How many Magic games have you watched this season?

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