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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    Considering Jabaris sources came from Leonard camp one can imagine how RC opening his mouth to the media saying he had lost sleep over the rift and how he allegedly turned teams away inquiring about Leonard + him saying Kawhi was their priority, perhaps they thought whatever it was they wanted the Spurs were going to acquiesce to. But if you make such statements and then don't want to move an inch from where you stand then you don't really mean what you said.

    If by then, there was an angle of distrust between the Uncle and the FO, something like that can be enough to do a 180 on both sides.
    giving a guy 200+ million after he missed and entire season's worth of injury is not an inch it's a football field

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    PM me timvp. You know I'm no snitch.

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    From what I've gathered from Timvp and Kori, someone really did question Leonard's heart and toughness, even if it wasn't Parker or Manu. That famous ESPN article suggested that the Spurs believed Leonard's injury wasn't every really going away and that playing was going to be the result of pain management more than anything. Therefore, it makes some sense to believe Leonard not playing had more to due with him not being willing to fight through pain than anything else. , Kawhi said as much in one of the interviews surrounding his final stint on the court for the club.

    Who questioned Leonard? Was it Tim? Wouldn't that be a wrinkle? That's literally the only guy besides Pop, Holt and maybe RC who could seriously be said to represent the Spurs. We know Duncan is involved with the club and that he tried to meet with Leonard alongside Pop. This very thread seems to refute that idea, but I can imagine a guy who's fought through pain his whole career not really going for the wait-and-see approach. Like is that why Young tweeted about Kawhi not being Tim? It'd be a trip if the thing that finally closed the championship window was a feud between the two quietest players in the club's history.

    Again, that's baseless speculation on my part.

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    3. Should Kawhi get 100% of the blame for the divorce?

    I’ve spent a couple months investigating what exactly went wrong between Leonard and the Spurs. I’ve gotten some really interesting information and sources behind the scenes – both those close to Leonard and close to the Spurs -- paint fascinating pictures.

    (Unfortunately, I’ve been warned that I’d basically be blackballed if I were to make certain details public. I have to figure out if I care about being blackballed. I’m leaning toward not caring, to be honest. I’ll make that decision in the next couple months or so.)

    Some of the things I’ve heard have made me sympathetic to Leonard. At this point, I would say the blame is closer to 50-50 than most Spurs fans would like to admit. But, still, even if Leonard was completely justified, the aforementioned disrespect is all but unforgivable.
    hum..

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    Obviously you do do since you responded. Now you should probably go and kill your self
    Second time you tell someone to kill themselves in a matter of minutes. That seems to be in your mind, it seems. Just know it doesn't get better you got.

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    As much as I want to know what happened, burning sources is not kosher imo
    Tbh

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    I still remember when Jabari came out with a report early in the offseason that the friction between the two sides was healing and that an extension would be reached soon. Then, Woj came out with a report saying the Spurs wouldn’t blindly offer Kawhi the supermax and that he needed to prove his loyalty first.

    That’s when things spiraled out of control and Kawhi demanded a trade.
    jabari is a ing re

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    How could Kawhi have fallen off defensively so much?

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    Jabari just told Chris Sheridan Toronto is driving seat to resign Kawhi but did not rule out the Spurs to bring him back. Dumdass reporter

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    Jabari just told Chris Sheridan Toronto is driving seat to resign Kawhi but did not rule out the Spurs to bring him back. Dumdass reporter
    No friggin’ way...

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    As much as I want to know what happened, burning sources is not kosher imo
    Yeah. Hoping Timvp keeps that under hat. I really don't care that much at this point anyway.

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    Chris Sheridan @sheridanhoops
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    Thanks to @jabariJYoung for joining me on a podcast we just finished recording. Will tweet a link in an hour or so. Biggest revelation: Jabari thinks #Raptors in driver's seat on keeping @Kawhi Leonard, but he did NOT rule out a return to the #Spurs next summer.

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    Think Jabari tryna soften boos and heckling ��

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    Of course we have to be sympathetic towards Kawhi he was never injured. He has a degenerative condition. What athlete willingly acknowledges that they’re basically flawed genetically? He never wanted it to get out to the public. However, that’s asking a lot from the Spurs organization to basically take the bullets from the mediots for a whole season. They’re relentless and as a man/brand you’re not going to get out in front of this? The extinction method won’t work in this society. Never allow a narrative to develop for months and then assume the victim role.

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    Jabari not understanding the salary cap is what I expected.

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    My biggest regret in the Kawhi/DD trade is that we couldn't ing salary dump Jabari's re ed ass

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    My biggest regret in the Kawhi/DD trade is that we couldn't ing salary dump Jabari's re ed ass
    I’m not sure about that since I thoroughly enjoy Pop emasculating this invalid every press conference.

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    My biggest regret in the Kawhi/DD trade is that we couldn't ing salary dump Jabari's re ed ass
    dude got played by kawhi's people, and I'm about 95% sure he wrote kawhi's goodbye 3rd grade show and tell statement

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    Its closer to 80% PATFO fault than Kawhi.

    Whats even worse is that all sorts of stories have been coming from PATFO sides but Leonard has remained like a total pro this whole time.

    gtfo

    sorry ass player fan

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    This is the Spurs' super bowl. Just another game for the Raps, tbh..
    I totally disagree....... Spurs have always been about the long play.

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    dude got played by kawhi's people, and I'm about 95% sure he wrote kawhi's goodbye 3rd grade show and tell statement
    That's probably what happened tbh. Maybe they have some under the table agreement to bring him on when Kawhi goes to LA. But I doubt it, and they probably ghosted his dumb ass.

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    The Raptors game will be the Spurs Alamo Bowl.

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    This is the Spurs' super bowl. Just another game for the Raps, tbh..
    This might as well be the Rap's SB because this team & franchise will win a championship. That is a sports Fact...

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    This might as well be the Rap's SB because this team & franchise will win a championship. That is a sports Fact...
    Kiwi is as close as the Raptors they will ever get to a championship.

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    Dude, just post it with your apalisoc_9 account to avoid the blame.

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