Murray is expendable

[duncan2k5]

Murray haters totally discount any offensive improvement, better form and results on his outside shot he was showing in pre-season before he got hurt. To make their case they revert entirely back to the past like nothing appeared to have changed from then.

Exactly.. Look at diaaron fox... His jumper was a huge red flag, and he came into this season shooting 38% from three... Give young players a chance to develop... Murray almost certainly at 24 will be better than how white is right now

[FkLA]

Derrick White >>

[BD24]

They can play together tbh

It doesn't need to be one or the other. White, Murray, Derozan would work I think.

Then Lonnie and Forbes off the bench, not sure if Pop will relegate his pet patty to 3rd string though.

[Mikeanaro]

He only became the youngest player to make the all NBA defensive team in NBA history. He’s also the only player at his height or shorter to record at least 400 rebounds, 90 steals & 30 blocks. Pop and Ginobili are both on record that he will reach s om and it’s just a matter of when, not if. Everyone on the team has spoken on Murray’s work ethic so I guess you weren’t paying attention.

Manu says lots of good things about everyone, he brought Laprovittola who was a bust.
But a link to that would be nice.
Kawhi and Lebron must think different.

[Mikeanaro]

His Instagram posts are awful with the urban lingo and capitalization weirdness.

We ballin fam.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Offensively, probably a stretch (though I think it was possible), but defensively top 5.

top5 defense? roflmao, who has he or did he locked down last season? all he did was crash the boards as a pg, didnt shut anyone down... that all defensive 2nd team was a consolation prize by the nba for losing kawhi/green

[sasaint]

If Dijon has develop/develops a good 3-ball, he will be a good SG. He would make DeMar expendable - at a great savings. And DeMar could fetch an excellent SF in trade.

[skin27]

If Dijon has develop/develops a good 3-ball, he will be a good SG. He would make DeMar expendable - at a great savings. And DeMar could fetch an excellent SF in trade.

nope..I don’t think murray will become as good as demar..tbh..I don’t see it..he should fix his jump shot first

[picnroll]

If Dijon has develop/develops a good 3-ball, he will be a good SG. He would make DeMar expendable - at a great savings. And DeMar could fetch an excellent SF in trade.

That brings up the real question missed in the Murray/White/Walker debate. Coming off the 20/21 season Derozan and Aldridge will be free agents and Spurs should have a ton of cap space and well developed Murray, White and Walker on cheap contracts. How much will they be willing to put into an aged Aldridge and aging Derozan and who will they go after innfree agency? It’s a long game to be played.

[skin27]

That brings up the real question missed in the Murray/White/Walker debate. Coming off the 20/21 season Derozan and Aldridge will be free agents and Spurs should have a ton of cap space and well developed Murray, White and Walker on cheap contracts. How much will they be willing to put into an aged Aldridge and aging Derozan and who will they go after innfree agency? It’s a long game to be played.

the problem here is a lot of people think murray or white will become superstar or atleast all star caliber player..lol

they have a lot to prove..

[dbestpro]

Hate for Murray is a right of passage for Spurs players into s om. Same thing happened to Manu and Parker years ago. Now, when we see Murray and White shut down the opposing guards next year, all those haters will be number one fan boys. The real question is how will Pop find enough minutes for Walker and Forbes as well when they all mature? Will Pop run 3 guard sets with Bertans and Poetl? Will someone else be added to the mix? In any case the future looks nicely set up.

[skin27]

Hate for Murray is a right of passage for Spurs players into s om. Same thing happened to Manu and Parker years ago. Now, when we see Murray and White shut down the opposing guards next year, all those haters will be number one fan boys. The real question is how will Pop find enough minutes for Walker and Forbes as well when they all mature? Will Pop run 3 guard sets with Bertans and Poetl? Will someone else be added to the mix? In any case the future looks nicely set up.

One of them will be traded.

and no parker and manu are not superstars in the nba..maybe allstar

[ceperez]

Let's not talk about Murray until he gets court time to prove himself.

This is a BS thread.

[dbestpro]

One of them will be traded.

and no parker and manu are not superstars in the nba..maybe allstar

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Superstars are a media creation. It takes a team to win a championship. Great players, great coaching and great team work is all you need unless you are the man from U.N.C.L.E.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the problem here is a lot of people think murray or white will become superstar or atleast all star caliber player..lol

they have a lot to prove..

they will never be selected to allstar, as to whether their talents is equal to a player of allstar lvl is questionable....

[r0drig0lac]

Hate for Murray is a right of passage for Spurs players into s om. Same thing happened to Manu and Parker years ago. Now, when we see Murray and White shut down the opposing guards next year, all those haters will be number one fan boys. The real question is how will Pop find enough minutes for Walker and Forbes as well when they all mature? Will Pop run 3 guard sets with Bertans and Poetl? Will someone else be added to the mix? In any case the future looks nicely set up.

Walker ceilling is the highest of these 4 players imo

[sasaint]

That brings up the real question missed in the Murray/White/Walker debate. Coming off the 20/21 season Derozan and Aldridge will be free agents and Spurs should have a ton of cap space and well developed Murray, White and Walker on cheap contracts. How much will they be willing to put into an aged Aldridge and aging Derozan and who will they go after innfree agency? It’s a long game to be played.

Yep. I have expressed my opinion on LMA practically since his arrival in SA. I would advocate trading him now while he still has some value and in a season where the Spurs will not win a championship. Poodle is a more-than-adequate replacement. I know - pipe dreaming. Pop is wed to LMA, and DeMar, too. But the Spurs have some difficult choices to make in a backcourt crowded with young guys with much potential. DeMar may end up bolting. Won't be able to keep 'em all, and the team desperately needs a legit SF.

[MaNu4Tres]

I can't wait until Murray & White are dominating opposing back courts for years and years.

Both are flat out studs but in different ways.

Just a heads up to some. You don't have to have a ceiling of a prolific scorer in order to be a great player. All you need are 2 or 3 of those on a team.

[ceperez]

Yep. I have expressed my opinion on LMA practically since his arrival in SA. I would advocate trading him now while he still has some value and in a season where the Spurs will not win a championship. Poodle is a more-than-adequate replacement. I know - pipe dreaming. Pop is wed to LMA, and DeMar, too. But the Spurs have some difficult choices to make in a backcourt crowded with young guys with much potential. DeMar may end up bolting. Won't be able to keep 'em all, and the team desperately needs a legit SF.

I've never been happy with LMA. But to be honest, the current system is working very well for him. Spurs are finding him very quickly underneath the basket and its punishing a lot of the modern smaller teams. Teams are just getting physically beat up by Aldridge getting the ball so close to the basket. I like it!

Now, I credit a lot of the blowouts to the presence of Poetl. A quick mobile big does wonders for the Spurs individual deficiencies in defense.

[sasaint]

I've never been happy with LMA. But to be honest, the current system is working very well for him. Spurs are finding him very quickly underneath the basket and its punishing a lot of the modern smaller teams. Teams are just getting physically beat up by Aldridge getting the ball so close to the basket. I like it!

Now, I credit a lot of the blowouts to the presence of Poetl. A quick mobile big does wonders for the Spurs individual deficiencies in defense.

Aldridge hasn't shown he is willing to be a punisher on a consistent basis. His preference has always been to shoot those 18-foot fadeaways. I don't believe the leopard has changed his spots. Sure, a game here... a few games there. But ultimately, he still avoids physicality as much as possible.

[ceperez]

Aldridge hasn't shown he is willing to be a punisher on a consistent basis. His preference has always been to shoot those 18-foot fadeaways. I don't believe the leopard has changed his spots. Sure, a game here... a few games there. But ultimately, he still avoids physicality as much as possible.

Perhaps. Who would you (realistically) trade for Aldridge this year?

Speaking of trades, perhaps an Enes Kanter for Pau Gasol trade? http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycpwpbow

[exstatic]

Forbes has played much better than I thought possible this year. Good call. I never saw Forbes being able to put together a stretch like this. I hope he keeps it up (although there is a part of me that feels it might be a house of cards).

Forbes MASSIVELY improved when no longer required to run the offense. Like Patty, he’s MUCH better off the ball. The dribbling and penetration skills will help his jumper by slowing down close outs.

[FkLA]

Perhaps. Who would you (realistically) trade for Aldridge this year?

Speaking of trades, perhaps an Enes Kanter for Pau Gasol trade? http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycpwpbow

[playbonner15]

Perhaps. Who would you (realistically) trade for Aldridge this year?

Speaking of trades, perhaps an Enes Kanter for Pau Gasol trade? http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycpwpbow

No, Pop dont want no issues with Erdogan

[duncan2k5]

What's funny about this is we are saying this about a 24 year old white because he is actually playing... If he didn't play at all this season (like the 22 year old Murray hasn't)... We all would be saying he isn't ready (well except me... I've always said he needs to play, but because I said it, ppl dismissed it... And when I end up being proven right, they act as if I never said it)