Why are you angry?
No, you don't. I'm not trying to "pimp" any particular player and I seriously doubt the same guy who continuously makes it clear that he doesn't really follow the league (the latest example being your inability to realize that the Nets would have no use for Gasol) is an expert on a random player like Johnson.
I'm just saying, that role is more valuable than the role Gasol currently fills, especially considering the two guys ahead of him are both among the best in their roles and among the most durable.
I read your post. Of course Gasol could be in a rotation elsewhere, but not many because so many are overloaded at center.
I don't think they want a rotation without such player, it's just that this rotation is the best they can do with the current options. Basically, they stopped trying to shoehorn Cunningham into this role and conceded they don't have someone to fill it. Doesn't mean they don't want to. In fact, their trying to shoehorn Cunningham into it in the first place indicates they do. So does common sense.
Team is blowing out teams. Poetl is better and gasol probably knows it. Gasol might have opinions on two big line ups but he knows he can't defend the perimeter and is this less playable in the current league. I could see him staying on because he likes the team. No team is going to throw big $$ at him and at most he's get a role like Parker. Unlike Parker the spurs need bigs. Until metu or ubanks grow into rotation players gasol will be retained.
Because we are tired of seeing players like Forbes/Patty guard the LeBron/Durant's of the world.
Stanley Johnson isn't an improvement though.
Stanley Johnson/DeMarre Carroll would be a huge upgrade.
Nah.
Might as well just wait to see what's coming on the waiver wire.
If a trade involves Pau and 2nd round pick, I wouldn't wait.
You prioritize PF/C depth, for me it is SF depth -- agree to disagree.
I prioritize not making stupid trades just to get another guy who is 6'7".
Strive for mediocrity!
It's weird to see the talent in the starting lineup , and say, let's put an average sf there with less talent. No one we get from gasol is better than rudy gay, rudy will defend big sf, dero will defend the medium, and white the smalls. Play your best players. If gasol nets an interesting player, fine, but don't trade talent (even late career guys) for less talented late career guys. Trade for picks/prospects¿ fine.
Totally agree. Spurs not looking to trade Pau at all.
Most of you are getting it wrong. It's not that the Spurs are desperate to trade him, it's that Pau probably would want to be moved to a team where he could play and knowing Pop, he will try to fulfill his veteran's desire.
Bench MIN FG 3PT FT OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS E. DavisPF 24 3-4 0-0 1-2 2 11 13 1 0 0 0 3 +5 7 T. GrahamF 15 0-4 0-2 0-0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 +8 0 D. CarrollSF
31 7-12
3-8
3-4 3 1
4 4 1 0 0 1 +10 20
I'm not angry, but there's no need to keep beating around the bush. A SF who's a bad player isn't going to help the team. Stop acting so desperate. They've already beaten James three times this season, Durant once, and Leonard once. Only Giannis has a better record, and well, Johnson isn't guarding him either.
Yes you do. It's funny that you tried to take offense to me accusing your of pimping Johnson then immediately pivot into pimping for Johnson.No, you don't, I'm not trying to "pimp" any particular player and I seriously doubt the same guy who continuously makes it clear that he doesn't really follow the league (the latest example being your inability to realize that the Nets would have no use for Gasol) is an expert on a random player like Johnson.
There's no role for Johnson other than new ST fantasy. It's just like Evan Turner back in the day. I'm all for taking fliers on guys, but tying hopes and dreams to complete scrubs is just mind-boggling. You show trades for real impact players, and I'm there too. But I'm not going to make other players better than they are just to downplay the guys already on the team.I'm just saying, that role is more valuable than the role Gasol currently fills, especially considering the two guys ahead of him are both among the best in their roles and among the most durable.
That's disingenuous. Yes, the Spurs would like a three-and-D forward. Every team would. But what they are obviously not doing is scouring the depth charts and d-league for guys to fill that spot. It's not because they've given up hope like you seem to think. They clearly have the means to acquire one, even if they did decide Moore wasn't good enough despite not even giving him NBA run and despite not releasing him from his contract to sign another prospect. You think Johson is good enough, but you won't defend that, so instead you say "I know he sucks, but the Spurs just need somebody". But they don't just need somebody. Otherwise, they would have tried harder to get somebody. Instead, they're willing to go small, to their benefit so far.I don't think they want a rotation without such player, it's just that this rotation is the best they can do with the current options. Basically, they stopped trying to shoehorn Cunningham into this role and conceded they don't have someone to fill it. Doesn't mean they don't want to. In fact, their trying to shoehorn Cunningham into it in the first place indicates they do. So does common sense.
Paus contract will also be very valuable to teams with upcoming tax problems ( POR,CLE, MIA) to name a few.
Id be willing to take on salary for the 19/20 season (only), for another 1st round pick in '20.
Spurs are likely going to have the MLE to use either way. And wont really need to use all of the MLE, because of Dejounte & Lonnie getting 20-30 mpg roles ( and leaving room for the draft pick(s) to have an opportunity..
Im expecting Rudy to be back regardless bc they can go over the cap to re sign him up to 175% of his current salary with his EB rights.
LMA - Gay - DeMar - White - Dejounte
Yak - Bertans - Lonnie - Beli or Mills - Forbes
Milutinov or Eubanks, Metu, two 1st round draft picks, player w the salary that can be bought out if needed.
There is no "situation"
just one of those "good" problems to have -
Pau is a pro and will play when needed and pop will time it so that Pau is ready and in shape for a possible playoff run.
Doesn't happen much anymore really, unless it's on switches
memphis gets pau gasol
brooklyn gets chandler parsons, a spurs' 1st round pick, and a grizzlies' 2nd round pick
san antonio gets demarre carroll and ed davis
It's a shame James Johnson fell off. A few years ago, a guy like him would have been very interesting. As it is now, it's pretty much Richardson or bust, which means it's just bust.
Cleveland shouldn't be in tax problems. I believe they're out this year, and they have a lot of expiring salary coming up to make sure they stay out.
Portland has Turner, but it seems like everything he does well, DeRozan does better, while DeMar still does a lot of stuff that Turner can't really do. They have Harkless and Aminu as well, but I don't think they sell either player.
There is a 3ed possibility.
3) The team brain-trust thinks they are going to get blown out in the first round, with or without Pau, and can net an asset from his partial guarantee.
Ace, you're a great poster, but you've gone way overboard with this narrative. Forbes and Patty "guarded" those guys on switches, which would happen regardless of what SF is in the game. The general idea that SA should want a forward is a good one, but you bump your thread on it when it doesn't even make sense. Are you anti-bumping it now that the Spurs are streaking? No. There comes a time when we just have to accept that this isn't the way it's going to go. It makes matters worse than the Spurs totally did go out and get the guy you wanted from that thread, and you're still unhappy.
Last year sucked for the team, and ST was pretty caustic as a result. I get that that made it hard to post here. But this year has been so much better, and you're still carrying over that negativity. I don't understand it. The team's already proven that they can handle James as well as you can ask any team to.
Id be willing to take Evans, and trade him to a team w space that runs out of options in late July, or buy him out. The 1st is more valuable than the player coming in.
Not really. I'm not against reloading or anything, but you've got to think twice before doing something like that. What are you waiting to happen to go for it at this point? DeRozan and Aldridge are only getting older. I understand wanting to wait for Murray, but then you tie up flexibility that could go to keeping Gay or using the MLE for a guy with a bad contract. I'd have a hard time selling that.
You're fuming. They are desperate. They're a gimpy Gay injury away from being forced to rely on Cunningham. A guy like Johnson may not be a better option today, but trading for him would be more about tomorrow. Equating one off regular season games to a playoff series is foolish. Gay can't match minutes with those types in that setting and his mobility seems to wane the more he has to play.
I didn't take offense or "pimp" him. I'm not really a fan of Johnson's and don't think he's good, but I do think he'd worthwhile trying to acquire on the cheap, so long as they have some level of confidence in fixing his stroke (supposed prior interest tells me they do).
There's 10th man and splitting PF minutes with Bertans when Gay either leaves a game or can't play entirely, neither of which is uncommon. Who said anything about "hopes and dreams"? More terrible reading comprehension.
Guys like Johnson and gimpy Carroll are better than G-League options. Again, poor reading comprehension. I said they've given up hope with this current roster. They do need somebody. Gay can't be counted on health wise and I'd rather either a potential better current option than Cunningham or someone who could conceivably be developed into that.
No Pau sitation until Pau makes it one. If he wants out, then I think Spurs would work with him to make it happen. If not, I think pau is happy to be here until I'm told otherwise.
In my opinion Spurs should have a true starting SF and backup SF. Who is our backup SF right now off the bench?
Even during this stretch, I still stand my ground that the Spurs need to add SF depth because IMO this is the key position in today's NBA; especially in a 7-game series.
In regards to the bold section, I never stated in the list below that Beli was my #1 target, just happened to be the order I pulled the player's names.
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