Thibodeau being fired isn't changing the trajectory of the Timberwolves. The reality is, Wiggins and Towns are in their 5th and 4th seasons respectively and are both on max contracts. Even though the former sucks, they're clearly going to try to win now. Covington and Saric will be key pieces moving forward.
Once the Butler situation turned into a fiasco, Taylor was always going to fire Thibodeau in short order anyway. He's not letting him make a trade of that magnitude if he's not on board with the direction of it.
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Quit being such a drama queen, dude. The Spurs aren't as desperate as you. You can call scoreboard again when they don't win the NBA Finals this season.
If that qualifies as a meltdown and being a drama queen, then virtually every post you've ever made does.
Taking threads meant jokingly seriously.
It's five players at a minimum, because SA either has to waive Pon or include him (or Cun or Metu or whatever) to make the numbers work. I said "or six" because we have no idea how the selling off of Ellison works. I said two picks because you brought up compensation for taking Ellison, and a second seemed like the most obvious filler there.
You mean the Spurs have to waive a partially guaranteed player who they could easily waive tomorrow anyway? Yeah, you're right, that could easily be a deal breaker. It's Ellenson and a real 2nd shouldn't be required because in my scenario (it is my fake trade, after all) the Pistons are paying someone to take him and whoever that is, is probably waiving him immediately.
I also didn't say I was on board with a Gasol for Johnson trade at all. I said I was fine with a Johnson trade if they didn't have to give up much. Gasol and a second and taking on Leur is a lot more than a simple trade like Cun and a second. I'm not as against it as you seem to believe, but I don't think the value is there. With Cun, Johnson essentially provides the same thing but with more upside. As we've been discussing, it's different calculus with Gasol instead.
Fair enough.
Oh yeah, I loved this roster as it was constructed. Totally loved not getting a small-forward in the DeRozan trade while also losing two of the players I rooted for the hardest. That's me, the guy who never has a contrary opinion.
I think the problem with you is, you clearly follow and watch little to none outside of the Spurs, so you end up overvaluing damn near everything Spurs and ting on plenty of what you know little to know of.
If the Spurs were just desperate for a forward, they'd be playing more forwards. They've done that in the past when they've been desperate at positions. Strangest hill to die on.
I don't know why you're not getting this, but you're not, so I'll try one more time. They're not desperate for some fringe type and they may not even be desperate for the real thing, but they should be because it's a bigger need than you seem to realize.
You started off this whole discussion accusing me of being mad and then ended up like this. What the , man? If you don't want to be associated with Johnson, that's fine. I won't mention it again. But if you start bringing him up and then trying to go all like "Aw, well I don't really want him..." then we're just going to be back here.
Like what? I'm not mad, but I am perplexed as to why you were. Again with the Johnson obsession. You brought him up this time. Again, I'll try one more time. Given their predicament and what he can probably be had for, I think he's worth a flier. Context is key.
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