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    Has anyone else heard this ridiculous take my the medial talking heads? First off let me say that I was an avid Danny Green fan and supporter since I joined here. Danny was never consistent on the offense side of things but he always had his defense to fall back on right? Or maybe that was just something I had implanted in my head to tell myself that on nights he was no where to be found. It wasn't until our recent resurgence back to the beautiful game, coupled with playing the raptors thursday night that I finally saw it. All the criticism of Danny's haters came to fruition. Green is such a liability on the offensive end. He's a stagnant black hole that ruins the rhythm of the team. It's so easy to guard a team with a player like green in the lineup. It's no wonder why we teams like GSW/OKC have always had their way. Especially on the road. This team does not miss him AT ALL. Going back to the point of this thread, have they not actually watch Danny Green play? I guess the reputation the spurs help him build is keeping his name afloat? But then again, what did he actually do to be considered "too much"

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    Lowry wasn't playing so I don't think our game against them was representative.

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    He's been overrated for 3-4 years. I called it when it was the unpopular thing to do.

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    He’s a better player when screamed at by Pop. Danny tends to drift, and needs his head snapped back from time to time.

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    He's probably been the best perimeter role player in the NBA this season

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    So now we are halfway through the season. Considering the return we got, was giving up danny too much?

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    He's probably been the best perimeter role player in the NBA this season
    Not even better than Rudy Gay. Stop it.

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    Danny was shaken by the return and tried too hard and shot horrible shots in the game against us. Last night he went 5-8 from 3 for 15 points. He’s shooting 40% from 3 and 93% from the line. We could use that plus the defense he always brings. DeRozan would be able to get him more open shots than he was getting last year. Still can’t dribble though haha

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    Contract year Danny would have been an amazing fit on this team this year and the Spurs probably have a legit shot at the WCF.

    Instead we couldn't pawn off Pau on them (who actually would have had a role this year with JV being out a long time) and RC gave Masai an extra 5mil in treat yo self money to boot

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    Not even better than Rudy Gay. Stop it.
    Rudy Gay isn't a role player, he's the clear #3 option every night..

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    DWhite/Danny/Derozan/Gay/LMA
    Fatty/Forbes/Beli/Bertans/Poetl

    That's a top 3 seed in the West and they can probably take a few games from the Warriors in a series, but hey Danny was bad in his return in SA

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    Danny Green just doesn't fit into our offense. We need players who can put the ball on the floor if defenders close out on them. Especially when passing out of post ups. His inconsistent 3-point shooting doesn't help there. Derrick White is also leagues better at fighting through picks, something Danny has been pretty bad at recently. He's still one of the best 3-and-D players, but I agree, we don't miss him at all

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    Danny was only valuable on offense (i.e. not a liability) when he was hitting his threes. Unfortunately, that has become less and less reliable over the last few years. There is a reason he was dubbed IcyHot.

    I think the Spurs tried to mask this by trying to expand his offensive repertoire: adding the pump-fake and dribble drive, pulling up from mid-range, or passing out of the drive.

    In retrospect, I'm not sure if that was the correct move. Sure, Danny was pretty much a one-trick pony...but he was damn good at that one trick. The more he tried to focus on other things...the less reliable his three-point shot seemed to become. If he was in a slump, the team suffered from Cunningham-itis.

    Green was always a top-tier defender, and I still think the team misses his defense on the wing. Fortunately, Derrick White coming into his own has alleviated some of that pain. Once we get Murray back, our backcourt defense should be right where it needs to be.

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    If he played like he did last few years, no. If he played like he's playing on raps now, yes.

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    From a trade standpoint, I do still think its outrageous that we had to sweeten the pot to move Kawhi...using another starting-caliber player, no less.

    However, Kawhi did the Spurs no favors there by tanking his trade value, setting his sights on LA, and saying he would never play in Toronto. I'm sure the Raps pressed the "1 year-rental" factor when negotiating with the Spurs.

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    He's been overrated for 3-4 years. I called it when it was the unpopular thing to do.
    lol

    you hate the spurs, every player on the spurs, you hate pop, you hate rc, you hate spurs fans, spurs moves, spurs bench, spurs offense,


    but love the out of the quitter/traitor

    lol calling scoreboard

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    DWhite/Danny/Derozan/Gay/LMA
    Fatty/Forbes/Beli/Bertans/Poetl

    That's a top 3 seed in the West and they can probably take a few games from the Warriors in a series, but hey Danny was bad in his return in SA
    Yea but you gotta remember White would barely be sniffing minutes if Danny was still here

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    Contract year Danny would have been an amazing fit on this team this year and the Spurs probably have a legit shot at the WCF.

    Instead we couldn't pawn off Pau on them (who actually would have had a role this year with JV being out a long time) and RC gave Masai an extra 5mil in treat yo self money to boot
    Let's not act like Green was money every game and when he wasn't on that our offense didn't look morbid. His defense? Sure maybe it is missed but since White's emergence and pop playing patty sparingly, it's not as big of a hit. The offense is so much better with him gone. Everyone on the team sans maybe Jakob can put the ball on the floor and make a play when being closed out.

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    Giving up Green was too much from a pure value standpoint. He is a very good role-player on a good contract. From that perspective, yeah, the Spurs having to give him up over Mills, Toronto getting to send back their least important prospect and being able to protect their pick to an absurd level, and most importantly, the Spurs sending out cash to make the transaction-neutral just screams bad value. However, the Spurs don't usually care about value when making trades. They prepared for Green's departure with their recent draft picks. White isn't peak Green, and certainly isn't likely to be better for a while (if ever), but if what he's doing can be sustained to a reasonable extent, losing Green won't be a really big deal. It's likely to continue not being a big deal as Murray and Walker work their way into the rotation. For the first time in a while, guard is a strength for the Spurs. There are other things to smart over.

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    Tell you what, Spurs can sign me for 150K per season, and i can lay a goose egg just like Danny did when raptors played the Spurs last week.. . I believe Danny G will always be a SPUR and i am a fan, but you can get more for your buck on the open market. Danny is a lock down defender or was, but ever since 2013 he has been inconsistent in his shooting.
    Long live the Tarhill Triple

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    I'm clearly in the White >>>>> Danny camp especially going forward.

    But they would be playing two different roles this season, White as the facilitator and Danny as the spot up shooter 3/D guy that he in Toronto.

    If you want to argue that Danny still being here would have hindered White's development then I buy that but if you think Pop is smart enough to realize that they are two different skillsets and can play together then it's a harder sell.

    Danny struggled because the Spurs didn't have a viable perimeter playmaker last season that could get into the paint and dish out for open looks, they have that now in the SL with White and Derozan. I think Danny would have the same bounceback season, especially in a contract year.

    Even without the benefit of seeing how well Danny would play this year and Pau being hurt, it was still pretty crazy that RC was unable to offload Gasol's ty contract instead of Danny's great one AND give an extra 5 mil in cash....Toronto was getting a top 5 player in return and didn't have to give up their much valued young prospects in OG/Siakam

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    I think it was a Pop/Rc doing Danny a favor tbh, I'm certain he's wanted out for a while now but unlike was pretty profesh about it. You can tell as soon as the trade was announced, Danny posted on IG about being in Toronto and he couldn't wait to get started. It just seemed like pop was like you finally get your wish. It was a thank you in a weird way for being pop's whipping boy. My theory lol

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    I'm clearly in the White >>>>> Danny camp especially going forward.

    But they would be playing two different roles this season, White as the facilitator and Danny as the spot up shooter 3/D guy that he in Toronto.

    If you want to argue that Danny still being here would have hindered White's development then I buy that but if you think Pop isn't smart enough to realize that they are two different skillsets and can play together then it's a harder sell.

    Danny struggled because the Spurs didn't have a viable perimeter playmaker last season that could get into the paint and dish out for open looks, they have that now in the SL with White and Derozan. I think Danny would have the same bounceback season, especially in a contract year.

    Even without the benefit of seeing how well Danny would play this year and Pau being hurt, it was still pretty crazy that RC was unable to offload Gasol's ty contract instead of Danny's great one AND give an extra 5 mil in cash....Toronto was getting a top 5 player in return and didn't have to give up their much valued young prospects in OG/Siakam
    Fify. Seems like I heard 2 other tidbits that you might want to address. One: that Pop actually wanted to move Danny, and Two: Pop actually wanted Poodle rather than OG/Siakam. You buy either of those "rumors"?

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    I'm clearly in the White >>>>> Danny camp especially going forward.

    But they would be playing two different roles this season, White as the facilitator and Danny as the spot up shooter 3/D guy that he in Toronto.

    If you want to argue that Danny still being here would have hindered White's development then I buy that but if you think Pop is smart enough to realize that they are two different skillsets and can play together then it's a harder sell.

    Danny struggled because the Spurs didn't have a viable perimeter playmaker last season that could get into the paint and dish out for open looks, they have that now in the SL with White and Derozan. I think Danny would have the same bounceback season, especially in a contract year.

    Even without the benefit of seeing how well Danny would play this year and Pau being hurt, it was still pretty crazy that RC was unable to offload Gasol's ty contract instead of Danny's great one AND give an extra 5 mil in cash....Toronto was getting a top 5 player in return and didn't have to give up their much valued young prospects in OG/Siakam
    I agree with this, with the exception that the third alternative to Green and Pau in the trade, is of course, Mills... If the Raps were insistent on Green, we should have gotten another (SF) prospect back.

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    The NBA made it almost impossible to play defense this year. Scoring is way up, perimeter fouls are up, 3 point attempt fouls are up. Great defensive perimeter players like Green & Kawhi are more neutralized now. I'd rather have someone that can put the ball on the floor and shoots 3s. They integrate well into today's NBA.

    I love Danny and he's talented, but his skill set is neutered with how the games are officiated now.

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