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    When social security and Medicare go broke in 20 years the wheels are going to come off anyway.
    We gone die anyway why get off the bed?

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    When social security and Medicare go broke in 20 years the wheels are going to come off anyway.
    yup so no point doing anything now about anything

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    just say what you mean, and stop beating around the bush: you rather have the money to get all the healthcare you want/need rather than having less money but everyone having universal healthcare.

    It's a valid position, even if some people agree/disagree with it.

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    " taxes on the middle class will have to go up significantly to pay for single payer health care because that's where the real money is."

    medicare for all is paid from ALL income, deducted automatically just like income tax, SS, Medicare, are now,

    so employers' private group insurance will destroyed, which employers should love, gets them out of the health insurance business.

    but

    ain't gonna happen, BigInsurance is one of the many owners of Congress
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    Unless "middle class" is defined to gross over $250k a year or something... which really is the top 5%...
    Depends on where you live. That number is probably lower for SA.

    But, as I posted earlier, you'll have to go after upper middle class tax $$, which is what you're describing.

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    Personally, I don't want to pay health care for people who have a 150k mortgage, but have 90k worth of vehicles in their driveway.

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    Personally, I don't want to pay health care for people who have a 150k mortgage, but have 90k worth of vehicles in their driveway.
    What do you think health insurance is?

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    250k???!

    My janitor makes 250k here I live nigas

    that Im off the tax wagon. I changed my mind

    I thought wed be taxing billionaires. Wtf?

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    Im talking household income btw

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    What do you think health insurance is?
    I thought the conversation was about universal health care through soaking the "rich".

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    250k???!

    My janitor makes 250k here I live nigas

    that Im off the tax wagon. I changed my mind

    I thought wed be taxing billionaires. Wtf?

    I know you're joking, but 250k isn't an outrageous number, especially for two working people.

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    Personally, I don't want to pay health care for people who have a 150k mortgage, but have 90k worth of vehicles in their driveway.
    I don't even know what point you're trying to make here.

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    I thought the conversation was about universal health care through soaking the "rich".
    But you're already paying for health care for people like you described.

    I do love it when people who brag about their money claim they aren't rich though. You didn't let me down.

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    I know you're joking, but 250k isn't an outrageous number, especially for two working people.
    Yes thats what I meant

    A family of 3 can easily surpass that without trying in most big cities

    So we tax them 70% while billionaires go to St Tropez?

    that

    Scratch this dumb idea

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    I don't even know what point you're trying to make here.
    He's better than other people because money.

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    I don't even know what point you're trying to make here.
    i'm surprised he didnt go with "people who get food stamps and then spend money on chains and jewelry"

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    Yes thats what I meant

    A family of 3 can easily surpass that without trying in most big cities

    So we tax them 70% while billionaires go to St Tropez?

    that

    Scratch this dumb idea
    No one has ever suggested taxing $250K earners 70%.

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    He's better than other people because money.
    I've never said that.

    But I do drive a 2004 vehicle, my wife drives a 2007, and my daughter drives a 2010. All paid off.

    There are too many "poor" people living paycheck to paycheck because they had to have a brand new fully loaded Tundra.

    Re s. Live within your means.

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    If you have an iPhone XS Max on Boost mobile you can't qualify for health care.

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    No one has ever suggested taxing $250K earners 70%.
    So how much are they suggesting taxing a 350k earner?

    Just asking for a friend

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    I've never said that.

    But I do drive a 2004 vehicle, my wife drives a 2007, and my daughter drives a 2010. All paid off.

    There are too many "poor" people living paycheck to paycheck because they had to have a brand new fully loaded Tundra.

    Re s. Live within your means.
    This is true but its the american way that has been fomented by american corporations

    Want a credit card? Here take 3

    Want a car no downpayment? Here take a 2019 one

    Want a house for peanuts? Here ya go

    You have to agree the stupidity was fomented by the greedy bankers and corporatocracy to take advantage of average re american

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    So how much are they suggesting taxing a 350k earner?
    Who's they?

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    This is true but its the american way that has been fomented by american corporations

    Want a credit card? Here take 3

    Want a car no downpayment? Here take a 2019 one

    Want a house for peanuts? Here ya go

    You have to agree the stupidity was fomented by the greedy bankers and corporatocracy to take advantage of average re american
    don't call ducks that, man

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    I've never said that.

    But I do drive a 2004 vehicle, my wife drives a 2007, and my daughter drives a 2010. All paid off.

    There are too many "poor" people living paycheck to paycheck because they had to have a brand new fully loaded Tundra.

    Re s. Live within your means.
    How does this impact health care coverage? People qualify for en lements based on income, not income minus debt.

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    Who else? Ocasio and Cortez

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