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Orlando is just not good at developing players, but that being said the difference maker on that team is Nikola Vucevic, not Aaron Gordon. In RPM, Vucevic is 7th in the NBA and Gordon is 91st.
Just read a BSPN article about how he's being misused in Orlando (surprise surprise).
4. Searching for Aaron Gordon
Two seasons ago, Gordon appeared to find his niche as a playmaking power forward -- a screen-setter who could pass and dribble, Draymond Green-style, in open space. We have not seen much of that player since. (...) Gordon is talented enough to stumble into 15 points per game this way. He's a solid rebounder, and a stopper on defense across almost every position if he's dialed in.
There is a better player in here, somewhere. The Magic have shrouded it by shoehorning Gordon into too many wing minutes.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8x92n5z
I think the Spurs staff could develop him. One issue is he's overpaid though.
Orlando is just not good at developing players, but that being said the difference maker on that team is Nikola Vucevic, not Aaron Gordon. In RPM, Vucevic is 7th in the NBA and Gordon is 91st.
Somehow I'm not seeing Orlando going for this...
Spurmfans overrating whatever asset they have.
it, throw in Vucevic while we're at it.
I can’t see even a tanking team going for that unless it were equal talent on their end
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Spurmfans overrating whatever asset they have.
Gasol will be an expiring in a year (huge asset), is looking for a bigger role and can likely still put up 15/10/2 with starter minutes. He's also a big name for fans to latch onto. Gordon's PER is very pedestrian, and is a borderline bust with the Magic. He's super overpaid.
Only because they would look foolish after paying him. He's not that ing great. He would also up our spacing more than our mid range shooters do, since he can't even shoot mid range with any effectiveness.
the players change, but spurstalk stays the same
go back 6-7 years and the talk was "trade bonner, blair, neal for [insert allstar]"
We don't have any assets to get a player of his caliber
is OP ing serious
2k is fun huh
Aaron Gordon is not an all star right now, in fact he's far from it.
Also it's funny, half this board overrates our players like crazy, and half the board underrates them like they're trash and the only reason why they're ok is because PATFO "trained" them. It's more of a middle ground. Guys like Forbes would probably be worth at least a 2nd rounder if opened up as trade bait now, considering the amount of publicity and shooting percentages they have playing under Pop.
Another point to consider: keep in mind, this is the same Magic team that hired away Jacque Vaughn to be their head coach () and also paid Jonathan Simmons, who ended up being a huge bust for them. It's not like their ownership has 200 IQ.
agreed. but just the hope that other teams will willingly give us value for our garbage
Teams are fully in the Zion sweepstakes right now. Between now and the trade deadline is the best (only) time to make these types of value adding deals. Teams are into dumping salary, yet don't want to make it seem like they are, so the fans keep attending. Which is exactly why a player like Pau Gasol still has value. Even the announcers on TNT last night were like "these Spurs are finally playing up to their potential, they have Aldridge, DeRozan, Gasol, etc..." Then a guy reminded that announcer Gasol has been hurt all year
1. Orlando front office
2. Big dunks, big popularity:
BTW for everyone saying we should go after Vucevic instead. He's a great player, and a better player, no doubt. But at this point that might be paying for peak value, and even a FO like Orlando knows it by now. You couldn't get a Vucevic without giving up a star. It would be like trying to trade for Porzingod last year (pre injury). Even the Knicks wouldn't be stupid enough to let him go for only expirings and role players.
Aaron Gordon for pau and dante....lmao
Pretty sure that was for Ariza. I was really into a Bonner/Blair package. Might seem laughable, but Washington wanted Blair (ended up signing him two years later), and they traded Trevor for Melvin Ely that next summer. People forget that Ariza wasn't a highly thought of player for the middle of his career. Between his time in LA and his second Houston stint, dude was sort of a bust.
In a similar vein, folks wanted to trade Bonner and a first for Derrick Williams back in the day. Seems stupid now, not because it was a bad package (as "woke" STers thought back then), but because of how forgettable Williams ended up being. He was traded straight-up for LRMaM. Luc was a fine player, but considering how Minny ended up dumping him soon after, the first was better value.
Then you have the AK trade from around that time with Bonner, Blair and a first. Minny ended up letting him go for nothing that same off-season. Nets barely paid him anything, but it was still too much, because Andrei was done.
What's weird is that I started off writing a "
Pretty sure Prokhorov paid him/his family in Russia under the table on that one, IIRC
That was certainly the rumor. But what was weird is that he really fell apart that season. I believe he either quit half-way through that year or had another year under contract that he quit instead of doing. Felt like he just didn't want to play basketball anymore, but I'm not sure if being on the Spurs could have changed that.Pretty sure Prokhorov paid him/his family in Russia under the table on that one, IIRC
Can we also trade Mills for Anthony Davis while we're at it?
Are you suggesting that they want to unload his money without getting assets in return? Simply doesn't make any sense.Just read a BSPN article about how he's being misused in Orlando (surprise surprise).
4. Searching for Aaron Gordon
Two seasons ago, Gordon appeared to find his niche as a playmaking power forward -- a screen-setter who could pass and dribble, Draymond Green-style, in open space. We have not seen much of that player since. (...) Gordon is talented enough to stumble into 15 points per game this way. He's a solid rebounder, and a stopper on defense across almost every position if he's dialed in.
There is a better player in here, somewhere. The Magic have shrouded it by shoehorning Gordon into too many wing minutes.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8x92n5z
I think the Spurs staff could develop him. One issue is he's overpaid though.
The guy that can dunk real goods?
We should have gone for Oladipo while he was still there. He had star written all over him and no one could ing read.
Better chance of getting Jonathan Isaac.
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