Derrick White

[paperboy77]

Not sure if it’s been posted, yet. . .from the recent ESPN writeup:

“ o, Derrick White!

I come prostrate before the altar of Pop. Six weeks ago, I chastised San Antonio's shot selection. I did not think it was possible to construct an elite offense while ranking dead last in shots at the rim and 3s -- and 20th or worse in both free throw and offensive rebounding rates. In my defense, it should not be.
But it be. It very much be. The Spurs are up to fifth in points per possession after a scorching 14-4 run that culminated in Thursday's 154-point avalanche against the Thunder. Their shot selection in that stretch has barely budged. They are just making everything, moving the ball without turning it over, and flying around on defense. It has been wonderful to watch. Again, I'm sorry, Pop. (I still think their offense will slip back over the coming road-heavy stretch, but I know better now than to predict a huge drop-off. The Spurs are solid.)
The happiest revelation: Derrick White. It is a fun sensation watching someone over extended minutes for the first time, and understanding immediately, "OK, this dude knows how to play."
White just feels the game. He is a cat burglar sidling into open spaces when the defense is focused on DeMar DeRozan or LaMarcus Aldridge. He has already mastered the Manu Ginobili thing of running into the catch:”

SOURCE: Z. Lowe - “Ten Things. . .” - ESPN - 1/11/19

Cool to point that out! It's true Manu would always take advantae of that.

[R. DeMurre]

Another draft steal for the Spurs. If the 2017 draft were redone now, White would easily go at least 15 spots higher. I really wish I knew more about the scouting crew of the Spurs-- is the person(s) who first advocated for D White and D Murray also connected to the Kawhi pick? If so, that guy is really earning his keep.

[paperboy77]

If Murray is back healthy, there is zero chance he comes off the bench and he will be our starting PG. For one, PAFTO believes he can be a star and two, Murray won’t accept that role and nor should he. Murray was damn good last year and if the midrange game he showed in preseason translated to the season, look out. The guy is a stud and 2 years younger.

No way. D White is way better on offense and maybe 1 level below on defense. DJ should be a 6th man. I don't see him as a starter, never have.

THat's a huge IF on Murray all of a sudden coming close to what White can do on offense. The guy was kinda shoved down our throats if you ask me. If we didn't have White I guess I'd still be very hopeful of DJ... but we do have White.

That DJ is younger to me doesn't really matter right now. If you can get 5 great seasons from anyone is a great thing. Maybe it would matter to me if one was 29 and the other 31.

Whichever way the Spurs want to go i think it's a uva problem to have than not have.

[DAF86]

Last year white was horrible and lost on defense... He clearly is better this year... Murray also would have improved in that area, not to mention in this era of small ball and big men being pulled out to the three point line, having his elite rebounding skills at PG is a valuable asset for our defense... This year he also has DDR running the break with him as opposed to patty mills last year...

lol so much bull

In the very few minutes White got last year, he was elite. That's part of the reason why many folks were claiming, even back then, to play the guy because he was the best guard we had.

[Leetonidas]

Agree with DAF, white looked like a player every time he stepped on the court last year which is why so many of us were high on him coming into this year. Idk wtf Kawhis lap dog over here is talking about white being "horrible" and "lost on defense" last year

[objective]

lol so much bull

In the very few minutes White got last year, he was elite. That's part of the reason why many folks were claiming, even back then, to play the guy because he was the best guard we had.

Correct, White was good the few opportunities he had. Guarding Chris Paul straight up and blocking his three point attempt isn't something lost terrible defenders do.

[Spursfanfromafar]

White and Murray would be a fantastic defensive backcourt next season. If Murray learns to shoot the three, which I think, he will.. The Spurs' backcourt is set for the future. Lonnie Walker will play the sixth man role till the Spurs ride DeRozan out of his prime.

[BD24]

White and Murray would be a fantastic defensive backcourt next season. If Murray learns to shoot the three, which I think, he will.. The Spurs' backcourt is set for the future. Lonnie Walker will play the sixth man role till the Spurs ride DeRozan out of his prime.

His shot looked much improved in preseason and offseason, given that is a small sample size. I am really excited about the Murray and White backcourt though. Forbes will be a solid bench player

[SpursDynasty85]

His shot looked much improved in preseason and offseason, given that is a small sample size. I am really excited about the Murray and White backcourt though. Forbes will be a solid bench player

Yep. It's likely Murray gets benched in favor of Forbes when we need some offense in the 4th.

[Seventyniner]

That DJ is younger to me doesn't really matter right now. If you can get 5 great seasons from anyone is a great thing. Maybe it would matter to me if one was 29 and the other 31.

Whichever way the Spurs want to go i think it's a uva problem to have than not have.

If Murray improves as much from age 20 to 24 as White has, he will be an All-Star. You're right about it being a high quality problem.

Between Murray's return, the emergence of White and Forbes, and Walker being ready for minutes with the big club next year, I think DeMar had better get used to playing the 3.

[acoelho1]

No way. D White is way better on offense and maybe 1 level below on defense. DJ should be a 6th man. I don't see him as a starter, never have.

It doesn’t matter what you see. No way White starts over Murray. It’s either he starts with Murray or White is the 6th man.

[acoelho1]

Whichever way the Spurs want to go i think it's a uva problem to have than not have.

Of course but unless they trade Murray, he will be our starting PG. They are very high on him and he has a higher ceiling in my opinion than White.

[RD2191]

It doesn’t matter what you see. No way White starts over Murray. It’s either he starts with Murray or White is the 6th man.

I have my doubts, unless DJ has improved significantly on offense, which I don't believe he has.

[Dingle Barry]

White has been pretty bad on the road and a factor in the team's struggles away from home. Here're his splits:

Home:
.540/.367/.833

Road:
.422/.294/.742

[BackHome]

To be honest the whole team plays bad on the road.

[kaji157]

It's all speculation, Lonnie Walker could outplay both, in a perfect world Murray surpasses White and Walker play at his same level.
That way you have Murray and Walker for the starters and White with the subs.

[ceperez]

It's all speculation, Lonnie Walker could outplay both, in a perfect world Murray surpasses White and Walker play at his same level.
That way you have Murray and Walker for the starters and White with the subs.

Nobody really knows! Wait till next season whey Murray is health and Walker has learned the NBA game. Nice to have this many options! But it's only happening next season!

[DAF86]

Could this guys become a borderline all-star if given a bigger role?

[Indianman]

Could this guys become a borderline all-star if given a bigger role?

A couple years away from it tbh but possible.

[BSfromTX]

White has been pretty bad on the road and a factor in the team's struggles away from home. Here're his splits:

Home:
.540/.367/.833

Road:
.422/.294/.742

maybe so but still prett decent numbers for someone that’s suddenly getting more responsibility.He will improve that IMO.

[8FOR!3]

I think ideally they're all 3 so good that you eventually have to trade one. But first see what they can amount to.

[XDT76]

White has been pretty bad on the road and a factor in the team's struggles away from home. Here're his splits:

Home:
.540/.367/.833

Road:
.422/.294/.742

Just to check any guy on the team has better away numbers compared to home games?

[Drom John]

ESPN Real Plus Wins
Derrick White is at #130 with a bullet, 5th man production.
#129 Clint Capela
#131 Jeff Green

Among PGs, White is #31, so the top backup.
#30 Reggie Jackson
#32 Terry Rozier

Among PGs, Defense Per Minute, White is #9.
#8 Russell Westbrook
#10 Ricky Rubio

[Drom John]

Just to check any guy on the team has better away numbers compared to home games?

Dante Cunningham
Home: .407/.467/.800
Road: .516/.522/1.000

DeMar DeRozan
Home: .460/.150/.819
Road: .473/.200/.837

Bryn Forbes
Home: .455/.398/.879 TS% .573
Road: .457/439/.590 TS% .590

Pau Gasol
Home: .429/.500/.715
Road: .538/.500/.800

Chimezie Metu
Home: .353/.000/.750
Road: .400/.000/.818

[DavidTheGoliath]

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/sports/bas...cid=spartandhp

haven't seen it posted yet so...