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    Why, you think Murray > White?
    Comparing 2 players on the same team who compliment each other. Stupid. But you like stupid takes I know

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    Comparing 2 players on the same team who compliment each other. Stupid. But you like stupid takes I know
    Why would it be stupid to compare two young players that play the same position for the same team?

    I also agree that they could complement each other, that's why, in the OP, I said:

    FWIW, I like Murray and I think he will be part of our future. He just isn't better than White.
    But what's the point of posting something everybody will agree on? To have everybody sucking each other off?

    I just wanted to point out that one is better than the other and hopefully create some entertaining argumentation.
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    white's ceiling is higher. he has a lot of brandon roy in him.

    i'm glad we have potential to have one of the top defensive backcourts in the league.
    No way white has a higher ceiling... U don't think when Murray reaches White's age, he will be AT LEAST as good? The only reason we know white is this good is because he actually is playing... Who knows how great Murray would have been this year?

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    I see it as this. Nobody is saying Murray isn't valuable or can't play with White. But Murray and White together with the starting unit of LMA and DeMar isn't a good fit. A 3 point specialist is needed and unless Murray's improved, he's going to have a difficult time beating out Forbes. Not because Forbes is better, but because he's a better fit for the SL and its needs and limitations.

    Which means Murray might be better served on the bench. (A bench of Murray and Walker would be brutally athletic!)

    And if Murray is a bench player that will affect the salary negotiations. People had been talking about Murray being a potential near MAX salary player, and that with this injury, the Spurs could extend him next year for a less but still substantial amount. And there is a real question if they'll do that, make the investment, if he's going to end up on the bench. Dollars and his role are potential hiccups. And they are valid things to discuss. What is Murray going to be worth to this team if he's not "the Answer" at PG? And having somewhat been annotated as Tony's replacement and the next great Spur, how will he react if White does indeed supersede him? And if Forbes has to start because LMA and DeMar can't shoot 3s, will he be ok with it?

    Valid questions.

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    No way white has a higher ceiling... U don't think when Murray reaches White's age, he will be AT LEAST as good? The only reason we know white is this good is because he actually is playing... Who knows how great Murray would have been this year?
    murray isn't a good enough scorer

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    Why, you think Murray > White?
    He a enrique fan....or player fan..fck him

    murray is a draft busts

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    People only see what they want to see. Murray can get to wherever he wants to on the floor. His quickness was second to none.
    When did this happen?

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    When did this happen?


    Didn't say he was a great finisher, but he was agile and quick.

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    Didn't say he was a great finisher, but he was agile and quick.
    Yeah, no. He can't get to wherever he wants on the floor and his quickness is second to many players. You'd think he was a prime Tony Parker with the way you described him. His biggest strength is his length not his quickness. In those highlights he didn't even blow by defenders, most of them were still in front of him he just rose over them with his length for his little floater/push shot.

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    That length thing is so overrated, I still remember when OKC was drooling over Sefolosha, selling him like the best defender ever because he had a 9 foot wingspan.
    What happened to him?

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    Yeah, no. He can't get to wherever he wants on the floor and his quickness is second to many players. You'd think he was a prime Tony Parker with the way you described him. His biggest strength is his length not his quickness. In those highlights he didn't even blow by defenders, most of them were still in front of him he just rose over them with his length for his little floater/push shot.
    Probably the wrong term. How about slippery, shifty? Wouldn't think you would be a starting point guard in the NBA or make 2nd team all nba defense if you were slow. Whole point of the post is the kid can play. Let's move on..

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    People thought White sucked and now he is balling and I am cool with that think he solidifies the PG position for the next several years. So going into next year I think let’s leave it up to who is the best player and who is going to get us the most wins.

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    Just enjoy watching these guys develop. Spurs have 3 promising young guards in White,Murray,Walker. If 2 out of the 3 turn out to be good then the Spurs have done a great job.

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    When did this happen?
    I was thinking the same thing. lol.

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    I actually think white could be the second coming of Ginobili of the bench.
    He would donate the second units. Run ours. Still play with Murray at the same time in many spurts

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    murray isn't a good enough scorer
    We would have said the same about white had he not played this season... Last year ppl were absolutely thrashing him on this board when he played

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    We would have said the same about white had he not played this season... Last year ppl were absolutely thrashing him on this board when he played
    Stop trying to sell fake news, ing troll.

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    Stop trying to sell fake news, ing troll.
    So no one on here last year was saying white was trash?

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    So no one on here last year was saying white was trash?
    I recall most wanting him to come in and play more over Forbes, Mills, and Murray. I was fine with him staying in the G league since bringing in a new pg in the middle of the season was not smart. Derrick White's stats in G league are very impressive. Not to mention they won the whole championship last year. He also killed it in this past Summer League.

    Murray's ceiling may be higher but he is only like 40% his potential while White is probably around 80%. That's why White is currently better than Murray.

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    Murray is already an elite defensive player. You can't discount that and look at his on/off numbers from last year. He will only get better offensively and 2 things to think about for next year. One, he's been sitting in on strategy sessions with the coaching staff, which will only improve is BBIQ and more importantly, his toughness, which is an undervalued attribute and he has it in spades.

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    So no one on here last year was saying white was trash?
    Imo if you look at his draft topic on ST , a lot of people did not like the pick and took shots on the FO.

    Really nice pick

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    So no one on here last year was saying white was trash?
    Here's what folks, that were actually paying attention, said last season

    Really do like White. Only good thing about Danny leaving would be being able to see what Derrick could do next to Murray.
    Im a fan of white tbh and agree with you. I hate Pops I'm not gonna play rookies schtick
    I don’t understand why he’s not playing, last Time he played he was decent against GS and then disappears ....
    Murray, Forbes and Tony getting minutes over this guy.
    In 2018..

    Better than Manu.

    Better than Tony.

    Better than Patty.

    Better than Bryn.

    Better than Paul.

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    Here's what folks, that were actually paying attention, said last season
    But I can show u a million others where ppl were saying different... Why deny it��? There were tons of ppl that were saying he was trash last year

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    But I can show u a million others where ppl were saying different... Why deny it��? There were tons of ppl that were saying he was trash last year
    The ratio of posts "trashing" White to posts saying he should have played must be like 1 to 10.

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    The ratio of posts "trashing" White to posts saying he should have played must be like 1 to 10.
    Disagree... I remember saying he should be playing over Forbes and patty, and ppl thrashed me for it... There were a lot of ppl that were not high on him based on how poorly he played when he actually did play... At least half

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