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    What inspired you to make the change of allegiance to the Lakers?

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    What inspired you to make the change of allegiance to the Lakers?
    I knew changing some bytes on a message board would trigger you.

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    I knew changing some bytes on a message board would trigger you.
    I don't think the change had a damn thing to do with me directly. You want to try again, or you happy with that lie, sociopath?

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    Been doing more research and watching more footage ... I don't think I'd want to see the Spurs add both firsts with Forbes.

    But Prince is a pretty decent 3 pt shooter. he throws up more threes per 100 possessions than Forbes even. I don't think they'd be that much hurt in that department.

    But how would he react on the lower usage? He has had more usage than either Porter or Covington ever have. Those are two guys who know their roles. Porter is such a team player and anti-diva that he's come off the bench for the Wizards the last 7 games without blowing up. Played pretty well also but he's taken the bench role. Would Prince know his role also? For example, Forbes presently has even higher usage than Porter or Covington, how would Prince take it.

    Obviously he's not the defender Covington is, probably not even approaching the defender Porter is. Two inch shorter wingspan doesn't help. But he's also has unusually bad rebound numbers. Atlanta was also pretty bad in team rebounding numbers last year and it doesn't look like he was helping with that.

    Still though, if Atlanta was willing to do it for Forbes+1st I figure it's worth a shot.

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    I don't think the change had a damn thing to do with me directly. You want to try again, or you happy with that lie, sociopath?
    I'm happy with triggering you on a daily basis.

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    I'm happy with triggering you on a daily basis.
    Cool story, bruh. Turns out you have no allegiance to the Spurs.

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    Cool story, bruh. Turns out you have no allegiance to the Spurs.
    Turns out you're triggered.

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    Turns out you're triggered.
    Turncoat

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    Not literally of course, but logically.

    The vast majority of us have discussed ad nauseam the need for a 3 and D SF since the trade, but what rarely, if ever is brought up, is the need to create a rotation spot for said player. With Forbes' emergence and Murray returning next season, they'll have 6 to cover 1-3, without including Walker or filling the gaping hole.

    Something's got to give. In an ideal world, that something would be Mills or Belinelli, for obvious reasons. Realistically, neither is happening though, again for obvious reasons.

    Unfortunately, that leaves Forbes. Reminds me of Hill, in the sense that you know they'd hate to do it, but he's superfluous, his value is at its peak and he can help fill the exact same glaring hole that they had from '09-'11. Plus, it makes no sense to pay him his next contract, with bigger fish to fry in the back court down the line and the need on the wing.

    Speaking of that need, virtually all of the realistic oft discussed names have significant flaws (overpaid, too old, too gimpy, not strong enough, not a good enough 3-point shooter either in %, volume or both). Might as well try to actually fix the problem as opposed to hope to.

    Which brings me to Prince.
    Their current regime didn't draft him, he's almost 25, they're in pick collection mode and have an affinity for shooters. Forbes and the Spurs' 1st might get it done. He'd balance the roster and perfectly thread the needle between winning now and later.
    Recency bias be damned, but I'm fully on board now,

    Spurs don't need Forbes when they have Mills. Don't need them to combine for 9-28.

    Make it both firsts, who cares

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    Lol Bryn is a "keeper"

    Truly a red carpet defender who is hit or miss from 3. Like we don't have enough of those in the rotation already.

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    Lol Bryn is a "keeper"

    Truly a red carpet defender who is hit or miss from 3. Like we don't have enough of those in the rotation already.
    Some here even think he's better than Conley, lol.

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    Forbes waiting for that patty $12mil per

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    he's hardly been worse than derozen lately,

    and derozen is a "star" making 27 mill, where is the 'Derozen Has To Go' thread?

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    he's hardly been worse than derozen lately,

    and derozen is a "star" making 27 mill, where is the 'Derozen Has To Go' thread?
    Oh yes he has been worse. At least DeRozan does more than just look for his shot, doing nothing else but clap his hands like a ing idiot.

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    Recency bias be damned, but I'm fully on board now,

    Spurs don't need Forbes when they have Mills. Don't need them to combine for 9-28.

    Make it both firsts, who cares
    I probably would too. To be clear, I wouldn't include Forbes at that point though. Instead, I'd shop him for an early 2nd, to basically replace the Raptors 1st.

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    Forbes + Untouchable = Bryntouchable

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    Here's a recent article about how Forbes is a bargain compared to Mills/Belinelli/Bertans. Ironically, this article on Forbes is on the Forbes magazine website:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robwolk.../#3b0a83607742

    A small excerpt:

    Compared to other, three-point shooting complementary pieces, the Michigan State product's numbers stand ahead of Marco Belinelli ($6 million), Davis Bertans ($7 million), and Patty Mills ($11.5 million). All three provide what Forbes does, with Mills as the greatest comparison as an undersized two-guard that primarily shoots from distance, while making $8 million more on smaller percentages and points per game.

    Given Forbes' salary for 2018-19, the Spurs will have him at a cheaper rate in 2019-20, at $2.875 million, while Mills' contract surges to $12.4 million; Bertans' salary is flat and Belinelli's sinks to $5.8 million. If improvement is the road ahead, it becomes a grander bargain that provides quality production at a team-friendly rate.

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    bryn isn't untouchable. but it seems dumb to want to cast off a solid contributor who is due just under 3 mil next season. he's a bargain now and will be even more of a bargain next year.

    the real frustration is patty... you would think bryn could be his successor, but when bryn becomes a FA (and will likely be due a significant raise), patty is STILL on the books for 13 mil in 2020. i woulnd't mind paying bryn to replace patty, but you cant have them at the same time if they're both being paid a premium

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    bryn isn't untouchable. but it seems dumb to want to cast off a solid contributor who is due just under 3 mil next season. he's a bargain now and will be even more of a bargain next year.
    Yeah, but you can't tell some people. Forbes' value is high because he's cheap and useful. Just as other teams might want a cheap and useful player, so too should the Spurs. If you had everyone healthy and playing well, and Bryn was a guy who barely played but light it up when he did (like Mills before he became a rotation player in 2012), then trading him for something else that would be more useful makes sense. But right now, he's a firm rotation player now. Lonnie may not be better next year (or he could have a third injury in three years), or Murray could be slowed all next year. The Spurs finally seem to have a deep and intriguing guard rotation in the works, but there's need to prune it until every egg hatches.

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    Can't wait till the playoffs to see u guys change ur tune about Forbes

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    Can't wait till the playoffs to see u guys change ur tune about Forbes
    Like you changed your tune about Kawhi after last playoffs?

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    Here's a recent article about how Forbes is a bargain compared to Mills/Belinelli/Bertans. Ironically, this article on Forbes is on the Forbes magazine website:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robwolk.../#3b0a83607742

    A small excerpt:
    That's gotta be a biased article, just look at the domain name!

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    i'd like to keep Forbes for now. dude has grown leaps and bounds as well as shattering any expectations of him that any of us had or didn't have tbh. he's also gained muscle and isn't getting bullied much in the paint while also adding more than a 3pt shot to his repertoire.

    i'm intrigued by his personal growth with the spurs and want to see how what else he works on this coming off season.

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