DeRozan at ude is very worrying.
Besides playing bad, which can depend on several reasons unbeknown to fans, he has a very piss poor at ude. Like a crybaby teenager.
He is missing sets on offense, tonight a couple of times he clearly went to the wrong spot (once Gasol screamed angrily at him after DDR collided with White after Pau indicated him where to go in the set). He is showing zero balls, basically.
Now, if it is a funk, ok. Don't like it but we can take it, shouldn't last long.
But the problem might be deeper. As it was clear to everybody, it was clear to him too: when the Spurs were playing very well, he wasn't the first/second option. Even if Pop keeps giving him minutes and the last shot of the game.
He wants his shots, his stats, no matter what. Hope they have a good talk to him, because he is becoming an at ude issue more than a basketball one.
DeRozan clearly can't be the first option for a contender. We knew that before the trade, during the trade and after the trade.
He played some games better than he usually does, now he's playing worse than he usually does. If this is extended we can risk a play-offs spot.
Also he seems to be quite fragile psychologically so maybe Pop prefers him to shoot himself out of the slump rather than facing him in a harsh manner.
Ever since Pau got rotation minutes.... DeRozan play has sucked (is it 3 straight games)?
Pau ruined a certain team chemistry, but honestly DeRozan's individual play has sucked.
I don't think the reason is fatigue. It's something mental which has always been DeRozan's problem. He either forces things on offense and misses everything or he plays too passive and scores 14 points in 40 minutes. Both hurts the team
Not a negative DD thread lol. What happened to him being way better than “nephew”?
only an idiot would say that. DeRozan is nowhere close to nephew's level of play, although it seemed as if DeRozan had better chemistry with the players than him.
He needs to focus on his strengths right now and not lose confidence if his shot isn't falling. He should prioritize attacking the basket and facilitating for his teammates. That's the value he brings this year. The shot is a long term project and I suspect that was always the plan with such a short time frame post trade. You can't tinker with a guy's shot right before the season starts. The past few games he has settled too frequently for a mid-range jumper and it looks broken as .
Attacking DeRozan is best DeRozan. The memo is out to the league -- don't leave SA's shooters. He needs to take some advice from Quinn Snyder and put his head down and go to the ing basket. I would really like to see him push the break in transition more. Feels like we've been playing in molasses the past few games.
playing like an unfocused emo teenager wimp.
He seemed frustrated and sulking. I don’t want to think that Spurs system is “causing” him the ASG? Do we have two not-over-himself divas in the team?? Oh no
This thread is very insensitive and irresponsible..
DeRozan has a long history of mental health issues, which is far more important than the game of basketball..Spurs fans should be supporting him and trying to understand what he's going through, rather than turning their backs on him..
Agreed.
His last 4 games, in particular, illustrate that point;
@ Memphis-4-15 FG, 9 points
OKC-7-22 FG, 18 points
@ OKC-7-19 FG, 16 points
Charlotte-7-15 FG, 14 points
He's also had 18 turnovers in those games to just 24 assists. Seems he can't find a middle ground. Maybe with Gay out, he's trying to fill the void by taking more shots or being more aggressive but he isn't hitting the broadside of a barn and it's not like he's taking 3's. It wasn't that long ago that he was hitting 50% of his 2pt FGs.
the way he's playing right now he shouldn't be worried about the ASG
He also gets way to upset at calls. I remember a few games ago where he got called for a foul while trying to defend a screen. He got knocked down and immediately popped back up and stormed toward the ref as if he might hit him. It affected his play afterward and it always seems too once he gets frustrated by a lack of calls.
He IS fatigued. Most of his jumpers are hitting the front of the rim. When he goes inside, he isn't getting many calls, leading to his frustration.
He is making 27.7 million dollars this season. For the sublime performance of yesterday he made 338.000 dollars.
If he has a mental issue, he must take some time off the team and cure himself, same as with any other injury. "Understanding" doesn't mean condoning that abysmal level of performance and -above all- the irritating at ude he shows. He should grow a pair of balls or hire somebody to help him finding where they are.
I don't see where this tread is irresponsible.
Irresponsible is not showing up for work, and not taking care of your (mental) health if you are sick.
There are plenty of moving parts here, including the absence of Rudy, but I think you put the finger on the current problem both for DeMar and the team. We had built up good chemistry, and now we are back at square one trying to integrate Pau.
The offense needs to go through LMA and then LMA will find the shooters or DeRozen! Last night, DeRozen, Mills and Forbes kept shooting and missing instead of feeding the ball to LMA who was hitting his shots and like donkeys continued to shoot bricks and also not passing the ball to Bertans, WTH!
This is who DeRozan is, not sure why it’s a surprise. He can look like a top 10 player for a stretch and then look like he doesn’t belong in the rotation in a blink of an eye. I’m not even sure he’s good as a second or third option on a good team because he can’t shoot to stretch the floor at all. I like him but he’s a very frustrating player to have on your team, now I understand what Toronto went through. I don’t understand how you cant develop a outside shot when you have that much talent, baffles me.
I told my wife this last night. I thought I was trippin... Its been covered up with wins TBH.
I'm actually not too worried because he stays aggressive even when his shot is off. That's better than becoming timid and being useless on the court. At least he continues to apply pressure to the defense and try to set up teammates. He isn't going to be a 30% shooter for the rest of the season.
I agree, I think the high of the Raptors win has caused his current mental slump.
He's not injured, but I think he needs to play less minutes until he recovers from whatever it is.
He needs the same kind of vacation that Bertans took this year.
Bring Walker and Metu up from g-league to fill his minutes.
DeRozan is a guy that has admitted to struggling with depression in the past. Maybe he's in a bout right now. But he's too good to simply not play. Let him get through this adversity. Some players just have bad stretches, but I believe Pop will coax him back to where he needs to be.
At least he's around.
This. I’m sure at some point he’ll sit a game or two and take a few days off and he’ll be just fine. I think missing shots you normally make due to fatigue and then getting beat up and getting no calls going to the basket would be frustrating for most human beings trying to play basketball at a high level.
You mean like Raptors fans and the Raptors FO? The guy was so coddled and babied in Toronto that it's no wonder he can barely function outside of his Toronto habitat. It's not the Spurs nature to attach themselves to player with tons of mental and emotional baggage and it's even rarer that the they would intentionally try to trade for one. I just hope that Demar doesn't end up bent over in some San Antonio hotel room, foaming from the mouth with cocaine, sex toys and baby oil by his bedside.
Now, it he gives half his 27.7M salary to charity, I'll be more sympathetic toward him.
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