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    Lol.... stand pat. Nothing available out there we want to trade for.

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    Kenneth Faried is ass cheeks.

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    Rockets might waive James Nunnally to open roster spot, could be 3/D option for Spurs.
    Well, a 3/- option anyway.

    Wonder if there's any way to get in on the Danuel House situation there. Pretty bizarre and intractable looking at this point; will be interesting if it gets resolved this season.

    And why haven't they called up Caboclo?

    Weird stuff.

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    You're getting me mixed up with what other posters are proposing; I didn't say a damn thing about trading for Marc Gasol.

    With respect to resigning Kemba, we would have his bird rights (and his cap hold is only ~$18M), so we have an exception for his contract. I suspect he's not getting a full max, he's 29 next season and has not done it on a contender (and none of the contenders need a starter PG). In summer we waive and stretch Pau (saving ~ $13.7M under the tax line) + what would have been Patty's $12.4 and Dejounte's $2.3M + the spot for the TO pick $1.4M = $29.8M without affecting our cap situation in the slightest... His max, as a 7-9 year veteran (this season is his 8th in the league) is roughly $30M...
    the Marc Gasol statement wasn't directed towards you, I was speaking in general. I know what you are saying, I just think that Kemba will follow the money and look to get the supermax from somebody. There are enough desperate franchises out there who would do it. Spurs just won't offer that and thus can't be sure to be able to resign him. Of course having him would improve the team, but with White and Murray locked up on cheap deals it makes more sense to use that money on a competent SF since that's this teams weakness

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    the Marc Gasol statement wasn't directed towards you, I was speaking in general. I know what you are saying, I just think that Kemba will follow the money and look to get the supermax from somebody. There are enough desperate franchises out there who would do it. Spurs just won't offer that and thus can't be sure to be able to resign him. Of course having him would improve the team, but with White and Murray locked up on cheap deals it makes more sense to use that money on a competent SF since that's this teams weakness
    Kemba can't get the supermax from someone if he is traded (and he'd have to make the all-star team to get it from CHA this year). The only team you can get a supermax from is the team who drafted you, so if he's traded, that's off the table. With regards to an SF, sure a big time SF (a Kawhi, Giannis, Lebron, PG ...) would be a better get than Kemba, but there isn't one we can get for trade, and I can't see a path to significant cap-space this summer, even if Gasol and Mills are both hit by lightning... we will still be operating above the cap. Just like if we do such a trade for Kemba, we would still be stuck at the MLE for FA's.

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    Kenneth Faried is ass cheeks.
    Kenneth Faried is what happens to a player who leans heavily into athleticism when they get past their sell-by date.

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    Well, a 3/- option anyway.

    Wonder if there's any way to get in on the Danuel House situation there. Pretty bizarre and intractable looking at this point; will be interesting if it gets resolved this season.

    And why haven't they called up Caboclo?

    Weird stuff.
    House is a two way who exhausted his 45 days, and refused a multi year NBA minimum deal from HOU. He didn’t want to be locked in at that rate. He’s stuck in RG for the rest of the season, and no one else can call him up. He’ll be a FA this summer.

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    Lol.... stand pat. Nothing available out there we want to trade for.
    Having Pondexter’s contract guaranteed pretty much indicated the team was standing pat. Pöltl’s play might have made Pau expendable though, but that’s just wishful thinking.

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    the Marc Gasol statement wasn't directed towards you, I was speaking in general. I know what you are saying, I just think that Kemba will follow the money and look to get the supermax from somebody. There are enough desperate franchises out there who would do it. Spurs just won't offer that and thus can't be sure to be able to resign him. Of course having him would improve the team, but with White and Murray locked up on cheap deals it makes more sense to use that money on a competent SF since that's this teams weakness
    No one can offer him the SuperMax except Charlotte. The player has to meet the conditions, and the franchise must be the Bird Rights holding team.

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    House is a two way who exhausted his 45 days, and refused a multi year NBA minimum deal from HOU. He didn’t want to be locked in at that rate. He’s stuck in RG for the rest of the season, and no one else can call him up. He’ll be a FA this summer.
    Right. That's the story if Houston wants to do nothing and retain his two-way rights.

    What if they just waived him?

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    Right. That's the story if Houston wants to do nothing and retain his two-way rights.

    What if they just waived him?
    Why would they? I have a hard time thinking they get to use any more call-up days if they sign someone else. May as well hold onto him to see if he can be in the plans this summer.

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    Why would they? I have a hard time thinking they get to use any more call-up days if they sign someone else. May as well hold onto him to see if he can be in the plans this summer.
    I don't know if the clock starts again but seems odd that a new player would inherit the previous players NBA days..

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    I don't know if the clock starts again but seems odd that a new player would inherit the previous players NBA days..
    Only if you don't think of it as a slot rather than a player. As far as I look at it, each team gets two slots with 45 call-up days. If you could just cut guys and start over, you could essentially keep 17 players ready to go indefinitely, with two of them not factoring into the cap/tax.

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    Only if you don't think of it as a slot rather than a player. As far as I look at it, each team gets two slots with 45 call-up days. If you could just cut guys and start over, you could essentially keep 17 players ready to go indefinitely, with two of them not factoring into the cap/tax.
    But is that the way it actually is?

    I haven't seen the CBA language.

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    But is that the way it actually is?

    I haven't seen the CBA language.
    Me either. The FAQ doesn't disagree with you. But it seems like an obvious loophole. Only thing to stop is is that the 45 days are pro-rated, so signing a guy 80 percent into the season only gives a team five call-up days. Would make it hard to find enough bodies to fill up minutes. Also helps explain why Moore hasn't been called up yet, though I still think he should have gotten some run.

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    Me either. The FAQ doesn't disagree with you. But it seems like an obvious loophole. Only thing to stop is is that the 45 days are pro-rated, so signing a guy 80 percent into the season only gives a team five call-up days. Would make it hard to find enough bodies to fill up minutes. Also helps explain why Moore hasn't been called up yet, though I still think he should have gotten some run.
    Yeah, the prorating seems to do the trick and seriously it barely seems worth the effort as many players and agents aren't crazy about two-ways in the first place. That kind of abuse would keep both away from the team doing it.

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    Patty is not traded, so please cross that.

    And I hope that Pau is traded as an expiring contract for someone like Allen Crabbe, but if he stays with the team we need him to produce. We need a 9 player rotation for the playoffs, that's; DeMar, LA, Rudy, Patty, Bryn, White, Davis, Jakob, Beli and you hope all 9 show up. Jakob has tons of potential but is also inconsistent. And who is to say that White, who has been more than solid for us recently, does not hit the rookie wall? We need Pau for the nights Jakob is not playing well, or White gets in foul trouble etc..

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    I haven’t seen mention of Vucevic. Do you think the spurs might be enticed to dangle a first round pick with Gasol to try and get him? He’s basically a young pau Gasol and has a soft touch, inside game, excellent rebounder, and can shoot the 3 ball so he can spread the floor while playing with LMA. His contract is expiring so there is risk of losing the pick for nothing but I’d assume Vuc wants a chance to be on a winning team for once in his career.

    And we all know Pop still loves to go big at times so there aren’t many big men who are available and better than Vuc.

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    Rockets might waive James Nunnally to open roster spot, could be 3/D option for Spurs.
    He was out of NBA until 5 days ago for a reason...

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    Patty is not traded, so please cross that.

    And I hope that Pau is traded as an expiring contract for someone like Allen Crabbe, but if he stays with the team we need him to produce. We need a 9 player rotation for the playoffs, that's; DeMar, LA, Rudy, Patty, Bryn, White, Davis, Jakob, Beli and you hope all 9 show up. Jakob has tons of potential but is also inconsistent. And who is to say that White, who has been more than solid for us recently, does not hit the rookie wall? We need Pau for the nights Jakob is not playing well, or White gets in foul trouble etc..
    so, we need Pau but you hope to trade him

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    I haven’t seen mention of Vucevic. Do you think the spurs might be enticed to dangle a first round pick with Gasol to try and get him? He’s basically a young pau Gasol and has a soft touch, inside game, excellent rebounder, and can shoot the 3 ball so he can spread the floor while playing with LMA. His contract is expiring so there is risk of losing the pick for nothing but I’d assume Vuc wants a chance to be on a winning team for once in his career.

    And we all know Pop still loves to go big at times so there aren’t many big men who are available and better than Vuc.
    I guess Orlando is looking for more than that

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    Spurs should need to burden themselves with an expensive contract.

    Just need good enough players that understand the system.

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    I haven’t seen mention of Vucevic. Do you think the spurs might be enticed to dangle a first round pick with Gasol to try and get him? He’s basically a young pau Gasol and has a soft touch, inside game, excellent rebounder, and can shoot the 3 ball so he can spread the floor while playing with LMA. His contract is expiring so there is risk of losing the pick for nothing but I’d assume Vuc wants a chance to be on a winning team for once in his career.

    And we all know Pop still loves to go big at times so there aren’t many big men who are available and better than Vuc.
    I don't think Pop wants to go big anymore. He probably realized that Gay can't play the three without a mobile four to help out. I think he's trying to keep Gasol in the rotation as like a super sub, which to me suggests that he's on the verge of dropping him out of the rotation altogether. I still don't think he's looking to dump Pau for any old 6-8 guy, but I also think it's more likely than ever that he could trade Gasol within the next two or so weeks.

    Trading for Vuc doesn't seem ideal. Like maybe those two guys can play together, but it's not going to be without its problems. I think they'd be lucky to maintain the same level on either side of the ball.

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    Maybe Sean Marks can do us that favour

    Pau for Allen Crabbe, the Nets can use Pau's expiring contract, and the Spurs on the other side can use a 6-6 wing that shoots 39% from the three point line (both career and this season!).
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    I don't think Pop wants to go big anymore. He probably realized that Gay can't play the three without a mobile four to help out. I think he's trying to keep Gasol in the rotation as like a super sub, which to me suggests that he's on the verge of dropping him out of the rotation altogether. I still don't think he's looking to dump Pau for any old 6-8 guy, but I also think it's more likely than ever that he could trade Gasol within the next two or so weeks.

    Trading for Vuc doesn't seem ideal. Like maybe those two guys can play together, but it's not going to be without its problems. I think they'd be lucky to maintain the same level on either side of the ball.
    Spurs already have a 'any old 6-8 guy' in Cunningham.

    The only reason to trade Pau is to get some long term assets. I can't see how Aldridge, DeRozan and Gay are going to be good enough to take this team past GSW. Maybe next season when GSW has one or two all-stars leaving the roster. Spurs are basically developing guys like White, Forbes, Bertans and Poetl. Guys like Pau, Mills and Belinelli are there to show them how to play in the NBA.

    The problem with Aldridge, DeRozan and Gay are that there aren't any Spurs players that are poor man versions of them. Well maybe if you think of Walker as a poor man's DeRozan and Metu as a poor man's Aldridge. I think these 3 are just rentals that keeps the Spurs compe ive.

    With the Spurs roster, I would not be surprised if they get to the Western conference finals, but that's the best they can achieve this season. Any team in the West will be happy to make the conference finals. Nobody is getting past GSW though.

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