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    Is that your only issue? This sorry pretension?
    That and there isn't a crisis.

    Yeah.

    It's correct and unassailable.

    We already did all the most effective stuff with walls a decade ago. We're done with that save doubling up a few hundred miles. That's all I'm in favor of. That's all that will work.

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    Pavlov's argument: Americans kill people too.
    Actually my argument is that Americans kill more people at a higher rate than illegals.

    What do you say we do about that, Chris?

    Be specific.

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    That and there isn't a crisis.

    Yeah.

    It's correct and unassailable.

    We already did all the most effective stuff with walls a decade ago. We're done with that save doubling up a few hundred miles. That's all I'm in favor of. That's all that will work.
    If you're a psycophath maybe. Security barriers are a part of life.

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    Actually my argument is that Americans kill more people at a higher rate than illegals.

    What do you say we do about that, Chris?

    Be specific.
    You don't give a about dead Americans.

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    If you're a psycophath maybe. Security barriers are a part of life.
    We already did all the most effective stuff with walls a decade ago. We're done with that save doubling up a few hundred miles. That's all I'm in favor of. That's all that will work.

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    Actually my argument is that Americans kill more people at a higher rate than illegals.

    What do you say we do about that, Chris?

    Be specific.
    2 wrongs don't make a right but you're trying to advocate for that. too funny! if there weren't any illegals here at all where would you be without your little stat? you know where'd we be, in a nation that enforces its immigration laws to the T for once.

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    You don't give a about dead Americans.
    You don't either if you don't want to do anything to stop the vast majority of murders of Americans.

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    Actually my argument is that Americans kill more people at a higher rate than illegals.

    What do you say we do about that, Chris?

    Be specific.
    Cite it. (Also, this is just a distraction from you aiding murderers and rapists).

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    Pavlov's argument: Americans kill people too.

    Winetroll's argument: Lightning strikes kill Americans.

    Just...wow.
    What's wow about it?

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    2 wrongs don't make a right but you're trying to advocate for that. too funny! if there weren't any illegals here at all where would you be without your little stat? you know where'd we be, in a nation that enforces its immigration laws to the T for once.
    Advocate for what?

    We would be in a country where Americans commit ~93% of the murders instead of 90%.

    Then what?

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    Cite it. (Also, this is just a distraction from you aiding murderers and rapists).
    There were 785 total homicide convictions in Texas in 2015. Of those, native-born Americans were convicted of 709 homicides, illegal immigrants were convicted of 46 homicides, and legal immigrants were convicted of 30 homicides. The homicide conviction rate for native-born Americans was 3.1 per 100,000, 2.6 per 100,000 for illegal immigrants, and 1 per 100,000 for legal immigrants (Figure 2). In 2015, homicide conviction rates for illegal and legal immigrants were 16 percent and 67 percent below those of natives, respectively.

    https://www.cato.org/publications/im...egal-immigrant

    So what about the 90%, derp?

    What is your solution for those?

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    What's wow about it?
    What did I say about quoting me? F off.

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    Advocate for what?

    We would be in a country where Americans commit ~93% of the murders instead of 90%.

    Then what?
    then we can deal with that and not even have to entertain this stupid ing border issue. right?

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    then we can deal with that and not even have to entertain this stupid ing border issue. right?
    So do nothing about Americans murdering Americans while you have brown people to be afraid of.

    Seems really productive.

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    Actually my argument is that Americans kill more people at a higher rate than illegals.
    not your argument, stats shown illegal immigrants commit less crime than the natives.

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    not your argument, stats shown illegal immigrants commit less crime than the natives.
    Can't it be both?

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    What did I say about quoting me? F off.
    It's your claim. What's wow about it?

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    Oh look, I quoted you again, and you can't stop me...

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    So do nothing about Americans murdering Americans while you have brown people to be afraid of.

    Seems really productive.
    read below.

    Why not deal with it now dumb .
    it's being dealt with atm while resources for those cases are spread thin on illegals committing crimes. you're not as bright as your ego has you convinced of.

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    not your argument, stats shown illegal immigrants commit less crime than the natives.
    are you including their crime of crossing the border illegally? lmao

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    Oh look, I quoted you again, and you can't stop me...
    Actually I can You want to get added to the list with boots?

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    How is it being dealt though? Link.
    what link are you asking for exactly? how dumb; it's called PD dumbass.

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    There's nothing inherently wrong with trying to reduce or prevent crimes committed by illegal immigrants, however small they might be.

    The issue is with the 'crisis' denomination, which implies this is out of the ordinary, or much larger than other statistically comparable crime rates. It is not.

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    Actually I can You want to get added to the list with boots?
    you really can't. I can still quote you all I want, even if you chose not to read it.

    But go ahead and announce to the world how fragile you are.

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    you really can't. I can still quote you all I want, even if you chose not to read it.

    But go ahead and announce to the world how fragile you are.
    I won't see the notifications. I'll go ahead and add you to the list since you gave the go ahead.

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