NBA Trade Deadline 2019

[DAF86]

That's not really true. Spurs lost to Memphis by 10 without Gay with DeRozan starting his recent trash play.

The following night they beat OKC then they lost to OKC without Gay and DeRozan continuing to play poorly.

They lost to Charlotte without Gay, Beli (who's been on fire recently) and DeRozan putting up 14 points on 15 attempts and 6 turnovers.

It's not like losing Gay alone caused them to lose those games. DeRozans slide coincides with Gay's injury. It's hard to win when your second option plays poorly and the third is out.

One plyer gets injured and we have to change the entire complexion of the starting lineup because we have no other good options to keep the same structure of 1 true bigman and 1 long SF playing PF.

[Chinook]

Not necessarily a star, just role players that can be counted on daily and not intermittently.

Not gonna win this one. If DeRozan sucks, then having solid depth won't make up for him.

I don't know what the this even means. The T-Wolves play 11 guys over 20 minutes per game. The Warriors plays 6 guys over 20 minutes per game. Minnesota is 11th in the west while GS is first. Does that mean Minnesota has more depth than GS? Knicks might be depth kings. They play 14 guys 15 min/game.

Because you list Houston's fourth-best player a depth. The Spurs have nine players akin to rotational players on other teams. No matter what kind of spin you put on it, that's adequate depth.

So why propose trades if the Spurs are good as is? If people are in here proposing trades, then the depth probably isn't as good as you think it is.

Same reason you can't stop acting like the Spurs suck no matter how well they do. Some folks are like that. This isn't a geneous group at all. You even have a growing Murray/White division for no reason at all.

DPG said the Spurs don't need depth. I said they do. Does that sound like an agreement?

Yes. The disagreement is because you misinterpreted DPG's reasoning (not shocking). You thought he was saying the Spurs were a contender. He was saying no realistic trade could make them a contender, so they may as well stand pat. "They don't need depth" meant "They don't need a non star." Dude's stated multiple times that he wants the Spurs to "sell" some of their tax space next year and look at 2020 fresh. How does that sound like a guy who has blind ambitious of the Spurs winning a le?

No, I apparently know more about the Spurs than you because the Spurs rarely make in season trades unless it's to accommodate an unhappy player. The last in-season trade deadline deals the Spurs made were

Zero to do with anything. I asked you about the value of mid-season trades. You've consistently failed to back up your claim that expirings plus first-rounders are good enough capital to execute those trades. Moreover, you still don't seem to understand that I haven't said anything about the Spurs making trades except that they'd be able to if they wanted to. Saying "they don't want to" isn't a response we both agree that the Spurs aren't likely to make trades. We both agree that they need more work than just a depth trade. We agree that they should save their picks for the future. The only reason why we disagree is that you're not happy with the Spurs being just a playoff team and I am happy with them being just a playoff team for now.

I'm not going to turn into a campus cheerleader like you but I'll tell you what I'll do.. I'll try to be more open mined and optimistic about the Spurs going forward. I'll have many relapses along the way but as long as the Spurs win, I'll say mostly ​positive things.

I don't think you're a bad poster. I just think you really like being one of the more edgy characters on this site. That's fine when just talking about opinions about how the Spurs are going to do, how good so and so in, etc. But when we're talking about objective things like whether first-round picks are enough to get role-players in trades, your pessimism overshadows reality. Guys like Lou Williams and Bojan Bogdanovic show us that firsts are still very powerful, even when attached to undesirable players. Both of those teams took back bad money and gave up a legit rotation player just to get those picks. The Spurs have two picks like that and a lot of expiring salary. They could definitely make trades like that.

[GusT15]

And here we go again with the Stanley Johnson rumors...

This is like deja vu,is this the 3d straight year the Spurs are interested in him? In his fourth year!!!

Someone in the front office has a hard on for this dude tbh

[r0drig0lac]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...ading-For-Wing

[Chinook]

A couple of house-cleaning articles from RealGM's aggregator:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...ve-Trade-Value

https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...ading-For-Wing

Nothing we haven't heard. Don't think this changes anything. At best, it might suggest that RC is making rounds shopping Gasol for a wing. More likely, it seems like an unrelated executive was just asked a bunch of questions.

[SpurSpike]

How about trading Pau Gasol back to the Bulls for Jabari Parker? We get a tall young wing defender they get a center since Robin Lopez may be shipped out soon and one of there other centers Wendall Carter Jr. is out 6-8 weeks with a busted thumb, they could maybe use another shaggy center? Salaries match...

[GusT15]

How about trading Pau Gasol back to the Bulls for Jabari Parker? We get a tall young wing defender they get a center since Robin Lopez may be shipped out soon and one of there other centers Wendall Carter Jr. is out 6-8 weeks with a busted thumb, they could maybe use another shaggy center? Salaries match...

Tall young wing DEFENDER? Jabari Parker is a fat young Power Forward with 2 ACL's and he plays ZERO defence.

[SpurSpike]

Tall young wing DEFENDER? Jabari Parker is a fat young Power Forward with 2 ACL's and he plays ZERO defence.

Don't know a lot about him honestly but saw he was listed as a SF/PF. He is only 23 and 6'8", seems to have the tools to be a wing defender. Maybe he just needs to be schooled in defense by pop?

[r0drig0lac]

Pau is a former player, it was always obvious he has no value in the league

[slick'81]

Pau is a former player, it was always obvious he has no value in the league

If carmela got traded so could pau

[r0drig0lac]

If carmela got traded so could pau

fair

[Larry O]

Hmmm... read both of those RealGM writeups on Gasol's trade value & the Spurs' intrest for possibly trading for Stanley Johnson. It sounds like we may be stuck with Gasol for this season while for Johnson, well... is he possibly no different that Josh Huestis on the offensive end? And there's Ben Moore, the 2-way contract player. LW4 is with the team today as they play the 76'ers. Hopfully with Bertans out, LW4 can get some time on the court & does well on both ends, if he's allowed to play. If he plays & does well in his homecoming in front of his family & friends in his home state, perhaps there will be a change of heart & PATFO will decide to keep him with the Big Boys & work his way onto rotational minutes. I know, I know: keep dreaming, BUT, I'd be surprised if the Spurs do make a trade move without disrupting much of this team; the culture & the chemistry. At this point, if anything, SAS will make changes from an internal standpoint, ala Moore, Huestis or LW4. Maybe they may persue Johnson in the offseason? But the bottom line is: Anything Is Possible! So, for us fans, we'll just have to continue to play guessing games & wait & see how this will all play out! GSG!!!

[KDKSpurs24]

How about trading Pau Gasol back to the Bulls for Jabari Parker? We get a tall young wing defender they get a center since Robin Lopez may be shipped out soon and one of there other centers Wendall Carter Jr. is out 6-8 weeks with a busted thumb, they could maybe use another shaggy center? Salaries match...

I think Jabari Parker even said he doesn’t get paid to play defense

[GusT15]

Don't know a lot about him honestly but saw he was listed as a SF/PF. He is only 23 and 6'8", seems to have the tools to be a wing defender. Maybe he just needs to be schooled in defense by pop?

[Dverde]

You don’t want Jabari on that contract.

[SpurSpike]

Ok thanks for the pics, he is larger than i first realized. Seems like a fatter version of Rudy Gay. Gay wasn't known for defense but is doing better in SA, who knows. Not a lot out there to trade for that are decent and possible. Id still take him for Pau tbh.

[DAF86]

Pau is a former player, it was always obvious he has no value in the league

Pau's contract would allow any team to shave 10 millions of cap space in the offseason. That is valuable in itself.

[r0drig0lac]

You don’t want Jabari on that contract.

the situation of Jabari is really confusing (it is not lack of talent obviously), however I would like to pair Harison Barnes (which unfortunately has a very bad contract) with Gay, Aldridge and Derozan for one season if it were possible

[Dverde]

I think Julius Randle would be a great fit. I’d rather clear out cap space and go after him in the offseason. You could play him with Gay and LMA.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

The person to look at is Saric. Minny probably wouldn't trade him to us so we would have to sign him outright but I do wonder if there's a trade to be made for him. Maybe 2 picks and Pau? He would fit perfectly amongst the starters and is just a super smart player. I like him for our team

otherwise NO TRADES THIS YEAR BC EVERYONE YALL WANT ARE TRASH. That is all

[cd021]

One plyer gets injured and we have to change the entire complexion of the starting lineup because we have no other good options to keep the same structure of 1 true bigman and 1 long SF playing PF.

That's not entirely true either; Pop shoe horned Gasol into the SL to find him some minutes. He could've just as easily went with White, Forbes, DeRozan, Bertans and LMA in the starting lineups.

That's obviously better than the Gasol starting lineup because its a lineup that is better able to space the floor and compliment it's two best players.

[Duncan87]

Anyone here watch Clan the Spurs fan you tube channel ?supposedly he has some legit inside info from Spurs he works for some sort of Spurs writing page said today Spurs have expressed some desire to trade for Conley

[Duncan87]

Also shot down TT saying didn’t come from Spurs

[DAF86]

That's not entirely true either; Pop shoe horned Gasol into the SL to find him some minutes. He could've just as easily went with White, Forbes, DeRozan, Bertans and LMA in the starting lineups.

That's obviously better than the Gasol starting lineup because its a lineup that is better able to space the floor and compliment it's two best players.

Ok, and who do you play when Bertans goes to the bench?

[Indianman]

Anyone here watch Clan the Spurs fan you tube channel ?supposedly he has some legit inside info from Spurs he works for some sort of Spurs writing page said today Spurs have expressed some desire to trade for Conley

Everybody here has collectively accepted that we don't need an injury prone guard in the back court problem we have already. Also, Conley is super expensive who would hurt the cap flexibility.

Wouldn't a certified columnist know that already?