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The Gay foul on Reddik was all on Gay.
You have to give the shooter the floor to land on.
You can't be pulling Bruce Bowen in 2019.
Good call and a super stupid low IQ play by Gay.
The problem was the offense, not the defense. Embiid is a monster and was well contained. We didn't score last 2.5 minutes....
The Gay foul on Reddik was all on Gay.
You have to give the shooter the floor to land on.
You can't be pulling Bruce Bowen in 2019.
Good call and a super stupid low IQ play by Gay.
The problem wasn't the defense. No scoring the last 2.5 minutes, how can the defense be the problem? The eunuch DDR missed everything possible in the last 2 minutes, walking to a shot that even my grandma would block. Defense was OK.
White needs a bigger role, imho.
White is a much smart player than Derozan. It shows in his shooting percentages.
The problem is that he's not athletic enough to just dominate. He needs that safety valve when he finds himself covered defensively.
Anyway.... everyone's just learning. Next season will be much better.
White is deceptively athletic, tbh.
Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...k-White-95407/ ©DraftExpressColorado Guard Derrick White posted the second best three-quarter sprint time at 3.08 (97th percentile historically) and tied for the third best standing vertical leap at 35.5 (99th percentile historically)
I won't give a B to Pop.
I enjoyed him yelling the team for what he considered a poor job in the defensive end. However, I think PHI was playing very well in offense and on top of that, they scored tough shots at the end of good defensive possessions and in broken plays.
Aldridge worked his ass off in defense with Embiid, doing a very good job IMO. He deserved more touches in the offense. Embiid wasn't 100% physically so attacking him consistently would probably have given some return in the opposite end of the court. Without worrying too much in defense, Embiid could focus on the offense and play hard defense just in the clutch. He stopped Aldridge twice in the same play forcing him to pass the ball and blocked DeRozan in a great defensive possession and didn't miss his P&R cover in the key possession (20" to finish).
Brown conceded DeRozan's jumper in the P&R cover between DeMarr and LaMarcus and despite DeRozan scoring, that was the winning tactic for him as the Spurs didn't engage Aldridge in the play and Embiid could rest all the second half. Should Pop orders had been "attack the rim against Embiid" the game would have been different IMO.
I also disagree with Pop about not playing DeMarr for the last shot. He took the previous shots, despite missing them I'd have played him. Even if he was looking for the winning 3pt, DeMarr deserved to be out there as he is really capable of catching and shooting a fadeaway from almost any point of the court. And overtime wasn't that bad for Spurs.
Anyway, it was a good road game vs a very good team. The lesson to learn is being up 8 in the clutch, you can't concede 9 points in 3 consecutive possessions just for not being focused on transition D and stupidly giving a 3+1 on a predictable pick&pop.
Elite?? Lolol... That's more for teams like Celtics, nuggets, Philly, rockets, etc... Teams that have the potential to make the finals but will probably lose... A team like US getting two wings will only make us on the level of Boston , or Denver... (depending on how good the wings are)... We have severe issues... We aren't a good team... We are those borderline bad teams that ten years ago we expected to blow out every night, and if we lost to them, it was looked at as a bad loss... The quicker we stop acting like we are good, the faster we make the moves we need to in order to set ourselves up for the future
Unless we move DeMar, next season will be more of the same.
Well you said we were elite when we had Kawhi and he is only one wing player so...
You make it sound like we are the Cavs or something. We have a good young core of guards in White, Murray, and Lonnie. We have a stretch 4 in Bertans and Rudy Gay. We have good 3 point shooting in Patty and Belli. Honestly if we could replace Forbes with a 3 and D player, I think we are right there with Houston.
If Durant goes east, then the west becomes wiiiiide open for anybody to win. That includes us if we draft our future SF this summer. We really are one wing away from contending for these reasons: Draymond Green is done. Physically and mentally plus the Warriors would still be on the hook for Iggy so they can't re-sign Boogie. Golden St will collapse without Durant. Chris Paul barely plays 60 games a year and is always hurt in the playoffs, add on Harden always chokes in the playoffs, I don't see any reason to fear them. Lebron is now getting old man injuries and will start missing games. Plus I don't trust Magic to get him the adequate help he needs to contend. Denver can't defendy shadow. NO is trash. OKC isn't going to get any better with the way that Westbrook is aging. Dude never learned how to shoot and his athleticism is failing him. Really who is there to fear?
Actually when we had Number 2 we had 2 wing players. You seem to forget Danny.
In your list of our assets, doesn't it seem odd that you didn't list DeMar? Moving him would be a clear case of addition by subtraction. Moreover, we would have his salary to spend on a wing/wings.
On DDs drive to the hoop and missed layup, anyone see how close LMA came to getting the offensive rebound?
Can't tell if Sixer got a finger on the ball or if LMA just misjudged it. Had it with both hands for a quarter of a second.
The two three pointers, w-h-y is Forbes guarding the freethrow line and helping double the dribbler thus allowing Red to plant at the three point line? This teams IQ with a lead is beyond stupid and it's hardly Popped's 1st time pulling a 2013 6 point lead. Stop the effing 3 pointer! "Duh uh we don't play that way over here" he spouts to the one reporter with some sack to ask him. Italian reporter i think. None of the U.S. pussies would as him.
For that matter Gays idiotic 4 pointer foul, again how the is Red that far open. Duh uh koach says we aren't supposed to guard the 3 point line duh uh.
Danny fell off a cliff and really never played well after the 2014 season. But sure we had Danny. I didn't bring up Demar and LMA bc 2k5 hates both of them and bringing them up would only make his response "we won't win anything with LMA. We won't win anything with Demar." Never mind the fact that literally only Golden St has won "anything" in the West since we got LMA. For some reason he's got this mindset that other teams have been doing any winning. Idk y.
I don't know what his mindset is. With me it is not a comparative thing. Aside from what the other teams beneath GS are/do, I don't think LMA and DeMar are pieces that we would be wise to build around. I am more or less reconciled to LMA's being here until his wheels fall off, but I still have hopes that Pop will see how expensive, unreliable and expendable DeMar is. Most posters want to move younger, cheaper assets or Spurs trash for a legit SF. I believe the better move would be to move DeMar for that SF.
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Thank you for the grades. This game was very demoralizing and frustrating, so hearing about some of the positives was helpful. Regarding the last play, that couldn't have gone worse. It's still hard to believe we couldn't get a shot off. My thought was Pop was pretty damned pissed with the last two minutes and was going for the win. In hindsight a tie would have been better....of course.
On to the Big Easy. Two nights there before the next game is mighty scary and easy to suc b to earthly delights! If anything last night's horrible loss might be enough to shock these guys into keeping focused.
It's been approximately 926 minutes since it happened . . . and, honestly, it hurts. It's a pain deep in the soul that I probably won't ever shake. To be that close to such a great moment -- only to see it slip through the fingers -- is still devastating. Somehow, it seems to have hurt more and more as the minutes progress as the realization set in regarding what exactly was at stake.
Sure, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean much. It's not something real. It's not a death or some other sort of real life tragedy. But given that following the Spurs is my only hobby in life, it's painful. I'm not going to even try to lie. It hurts.
I've tried getting away from it all to try to forget about it. But here I am, in the middle of my lunch break trying to eat, and all that I can see are memories of Red getting a 4-point play replaying again and again.
Logically, I know the pain doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's just a basketball game. And the Spurs already have five championships. And going into the game, going toe to toe with a team that just annihilated HOU would have been seen as a great success. , after the way the Spurs looked on the road early on, just not losing by 30 would've been a job well done.
Logically, the Spurs' turnaround has been a great accomplishment. A year ago, if you told me the Spurs would be a playoff team without Kawhi, I would have been thrilled.
But damn.
This pain doesn't compare to anything else I've experienced in my Spurs fandom. Yeah, .4 sucked. The foul was tough to swallow. The no-look pass was unpleasant. The backdoor sweeps weren't fun. The frontdoor sweeps weren't enjoyable. But all of those don't even register compared to this.
I've had an extremely busy summer. Life is solid -- could be better but can't complain overall. But it will continue to haunt me.
Hopefully the the trade deadline will provide some sort of relief. The great thing about sports is there is always tomorrow. For now, at least, the pain of yesterday outweighs the excitement of tomorrow. I'm hoping that changes. Starting tonight.
Tbh this team has overachieved. Watching them annihilated Raptors, win over Mavs, etc., raises your hopes and expectations just to fall flat. I guess it’s getting consistent, healthy. But for sure still has a lot more tweaking to go, and agree that hopefully coming by was of trade before the deadline. I personally don’t expect too much to ease the pain and see things as a silver lining. Next year when everybody’s healthy and a year on their belt, moved Pau/picks for a defensive 3 and D, is when I will start expecting more
This is DeMarr's first season in San Antonio. He's adapting to the system and vice versa. I'm very optimistic about him after one summer working under Spurs guidance. I bet next season he will start scoring from three in certain spots and he will play better defense as well. Pop could run more P&R actions for him ala Parker/Ginobili. DeRozan has the correct at ude, I can only see him getting better in San Antonio.
I really trust our player-development coaches, commanded by Chip. Year after year they do an amazing job, there are a lot of examples on the current roster. Damn, even Patty Mills is scoring in penetrations nowadays!
Trust the process.
I mean, KEEP POUNDING THE ROCK.
I trust the Spurs player development process, as well. That is another reason I believe DeMar is expendable. I would rather the team concentrate on developing the guys who are younger, show greater potential and are less expensive. Spend DeMar's money on a legit SF.
Play Poeltl.
make an account about it
Spend it on who though? Your idea sounds good in a vacuum but it's not practical. Look up the salaries that are comparable to DeRozen and it gets tricky. I mean Kyle Lowry makes more money than DeRozan and he's a worse player. Jrue Holiday and CJ McCollum make roughly the same and I rather have Demar than them. Mike Conely, Blake Griffin, Marc Gasol, Otto Porter. These are all worse players that are in the Demar salary range. Whiteside, Batum, and Harrison Barnes all make his money too. Demar's contract isn't that bad tbh. I just don't know what mythical player you want us to get.
It's better for our young players to lean on DeRozen early in their career and then pick up the slack for him later on when they are ready to stand on their own. White is developing nicely next to DeRozan. Murray has the swag and the confidence to fit in with Demar as well and I don't se his growth getting stunted. Lonnie is looking like a 3 year project at this point and it would be nice to have an All-star level player playing SG while Lonnie gets his game together.
My thing is I rather draft a SF, get them to learn the system and develop their game slowly, and then lean on all the young players when the time is right. Just bc we have high draft picks that doesn't guarantee success even if we draft talented people (think phoenix and minny). By all accounts Demar is a good vet to have on this team and a great teammate.
A trade doesn't have to be 1-for-1. And it might have to involve a third team. But I would start by offering DeMar and Toronto's first to Minnesota for Robert Covington and Taj Gibson and the Wolves' first.
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