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    Iron Fist season 2 was meh, better than season 1, but still meh

    FInn Jones can’t carry a show tbh, he’s better when he is playing a secondary character, his cameo in Luke Cage season 2 was good for instance.

    Ward has been by far my favorite character in both sessons.
    Ward is awesome tbh
    His girlfriend was an interesting character, the actress did a great job imo

    I really like Typhoid Mary, although we haven’t seen the Typhoid Mary personality per se, I think that’s who she was hinting at in the finale
    i thought ward was complete dog in season 1 but was good in season 2.

    i think instead of doing luke cage and iron fist separately they should have just done heroes for hire/daughters of the dragon as one show.

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    i thought ward was complete dog in season 1 but was good in season 2.

    i think instead of doing luke cage and iron fist separately they should have just done heroes for hire/daughters of the dragon as one show.
    Agreed

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    Iron Fist season 2 was meh, better than season 1, but still meh

    FInn Jones can’t carry a show tbh, he’s better when he is playing a secondary character, his cameo in Luke Cage season 2 was good for instance.

    Ward has been by far my favorite character in both sessons.
    Ward is awesome tbh
    His girlfriend was an interesting character, the actress did a great job imo

    I really like Typhoid Mary, although we haven’t seen the Typhoid Mary personality per se, I think that’s who she was hinting at in the finale
    Ward had by far the best arc of all the characters. Danny and Coleen didn't really start their arcs until The Defenders. Buck and the S1 writers really did a terrible job trying to show Danny was a profoundly damaged man and instead had him come off as a whiny, impulsive .

    Typhoid Mary Sue was a little much for me, but could get better. Joy was oddly OK as a completely unreasonable .

    Agree that Danny isn't compelling enough to continue a show on his own. He was good in The Defenders and really good in Luke Cage. I think Cage would run out of steam quickly as a lead if his show continued too so I'm all for an ensemble show with Heroes for Hire and Daughters of the Dragon maybe with an exasperated Ward trying to manage all the personalities.

    I'd be interested to know if Misty's character could be used in other shows, namely Cloak and Dagger where she's already been named as former partner to season two's apparent main villain, Mayhem. A one-episode appearance could be easily done as Tyrone could just teleport her from and back to New York when his powers evolve to that point.

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    Iron Fist season 2 was meh, better than season 1, but still meh

    FInn Jones can’t carry a show tbh, he’s better when he is playing a secondary character, his cameo in Luke Cage season 2 was good for instance.

    Ward has been by far my favorite character in both sessons.
    Ward is awesome tbh
    His girlfriend was an interesting character, the actress did a great job imo

    I really like Typhoid Mary, although we haven’t seen the Typhoid Mary personality per se, I think that’s who she was hinting at in the finale
    Was very critical of his acting in season 1 but has been much better in the first four episodes of season 2, that being said, he really can't carry a show.

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    i thought ward was complete dog in season 1 but was good in season 2.

    i think instead of doing luke cage and iron fist separately they should have just done heroes for hire/daughters of the dragon as one show.
    Agreed. Also, make the seasons 10 episodes to make for better pacing. Halfway thru season 2 of Iron Fist and am fairly impressed by the improvement, would like to see more Coleen in the future and Misty actually wasn't annoying. Add in Luke Cage and that could be a pretty good show.

    punisher season 2 is unwatchable


    Really surprised by that, yeesh. May second guess watching it now, unless there is going to be a season 3-which is rumored to feature Daredevil and King Pin if it were to happen.
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    Agreed. Also, make the seasons 10 episodes to make for better pacing. Halfway thru season 2 of Iron Fist and am fairly impressed by the improvement, would like to see more Coleen in the future and Misty actually wasn't annoying. Add in Luke Cage and that could be a pretty good show.



    Really surprised by that, yeesh. May second guess watching it now, unless there is going to be a season 3-which is rumored to feature Daredevil and King Pin if it were to happen.
    umm, all the marvel/netflix shows are getting cancelled. the run is over after JJ season 3

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    Punisher S3 got better late but again only should've been ten episodes. 13 ends up showcasing bad actors fumbling through obvious filler. Pretty satisfying ending right up until the epilogue, where it goes over the top for no reason. Not as badly as Iron Fist did, but same kind of thing. One cameo was good, another was almost complete waste except for a weird fetish joke.

    Will be interesting to see if the Punisher character is subject to the same restriction as those in the other Netflix series.

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    umm, all the marvel/netflix shows are getting cancelled. the run is over after JJ season 3
    I know. Was talking about if they were going to get picked up by Disney + and as if Punisher wasn't going to be axed by Netflix.

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    Punisher S3 got better late but again only should've been ten episodes. 13 ends up showcasing bad actors fumbling through obvious filler. Pretty satisfying ending right up until the epilogue, where it goes over the top for no reason. Not as badly as Iron Fist did, but same kind of thing. One cameo was good, another was almost complete waste except for a weird fetish joke.

    Will be interesting to see if the Punisher character is subject to the same restriction as those in the other Netflix series.
    I would assume since he showed up first in DD S2 it would be.

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    @ Punisher snuff-fests ever showing up on Disney+

    If the rights are available and the numbers are right it'd be more likely to end up on Hulu. If Disney believes in Marvel TV at all, they should just pay up and get all the TV shows (first run and other networks' reruns) on that platform and start working on the synergy from there.
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    I would assume since he showed up first in DD S2 it would be.
    I guess, but the Punisher show itself was on a separate contract made after that, so maybe it supercedes the original.

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    against my better judgment, i've pressed on through punisher, just finished episode 09 yesterday. the plot has finally become more coherent, but i still think the dialogue is ass and things are still dreadfully slow, at least with the character development and such. the action sequences are very in your face, so thats at least fun

    i still feel like it's a chore watching the show, honestly. but after having watched all 11 prior seasons of marvels netflix series, i kinda feel an obligation to see it through.

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    against my better judgment, i've pressed on through punisher, just finished episode 09 yesterday. the plot has finally become more coherent, but i still think the dialogue is ass and things are still dreadfully slow, at least with the character development and such. the action sequences are very in your face, so thats at least fun
    Yeah, the three worst supporting actors get the most screen time and the best are criminally underused for all the filler time available. The double-track plot learned nothing from Spider-Man 3.

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    ok, so episode 10 was actually pretty fantastic and 11 was strong too. will probably wrap it up tonight or tomorrow.

    episode 10 was a much needed shot in the arm

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    All canceled now.

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    Its such a travesty that jessica jones somehow got 3 seasons

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    Its such a travesty that jessica jones somehow got 3 seasons
    jessica jones was second only to daredevil imo.

    i will say that both JJ and Luke Cage had too much filler

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    On the DC side, ans S1 was a jumbled edgelord mess and Doom Patrol is off to a great start.

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    We will always have that first viewing of the DD staircase scene to treasure in our hearts. RIP Marvel Netflix Universe.

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    We will always have that first viewing of the DD staircase scene to treasure in our hearts. RIP Marvel Netflix Universe.
    Instant classic

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    Mixed emotions on the Marvel Netflix series'

    Daredevil was far and away the best series and exceeded expectations.

    Jessica Jones was a bit overrated, actually liked Luke Cage and though Iron Fist was a bit of a mess.


    them together didn't work and almost certainly killed enthusiasm for future seasons and contributed to their cancellation.

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    without picking apart season by season, i'd say DD-JJ-IF-LC

    the hype luke cage got never made any sense to me. iron fist season 1 was pretty poor. season 2 was decent. i didnt like either luke cage season. the villains were poor. and bushmaster with his repe ive correcting everytime somebody said dillard. STOKES. Mariah... STOKES.

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    oh. and punisher probably between Jessica Jones and Iron Fist. punisher season 1 was quite good. i thought season 2 was a complete disaster but it finished strong.

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    I liked Luke Cage a lot, from the locations to the music to the episode les. I'd put it behind Daredevil.

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    luke cage and iron fist were both corny as , but danny being corny at least had some reasoning to it, given his upbringing. luke was brought up in harlem and isn't old enough to have corny dad humor without it seeming awkward.

    the fight choreography sucked on both shows. luke was just lazily throwing people around, while iron fist's kung fu was awful in season 1.

    i dont think either show was good enough to carry on its own. they should have just made heroes for hire. luke and danny getting to know each other through claire was one of the few bright spots of the Defenders, for instance. they had good chemistry. iron fist's appearance in luke cage season 2 was also the bright spot of that season

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