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imho, all those players have added hype about them, ergo they seem worse than they've been hyped up. But, yeah, they suck.
Both = we robbed them. One = they robbed us. Plus, I haven't looked at salaries, but I doubt Kuz + Ingram = DeMar.
imho, all those players have added hype about them, ergo they seem worse than they've been hyped up. But, yeah, they suck.
Ingram has been disappointing but you gotta wonder if leaving the Lakers would better him the way it did D Lo?
i agree that Ingram could benefit from a change of scenery. I would prefer to bring a third team into the deal to take him. I want Kuzma, but Ingram doesn't fit my personal vision of the Spurs.
I predict this thread will reach 30+ pages...and the Spurs will make exactly 0 moves.
I will be hyped AF if they can get Stanley Johnson. Not even stubborn ass PATFO wont do anything with the lack of wings on the team. If they though they had something in Austin with Ben Moore you'd figure they would have called him up already given DeRozan, & Gay injuries as well as Bertans missing for personal reasons all the time.
I wouldn’t, either. Their young players are only complementary. The team goes into,a tailspin any time Bron misses games.
I hope you are right...but I just don't see the assets.
Obviously, the Spurs don't need to move any valuable pieces (like Beli or Bertans who are actually playing really well for us right now).
Forbes may be on the table and his stock is high...but I still think the team will retain him because of "culture" and what not. He is an up-and-comer in the Spurs system,
Mills isn't going anywhere as one of the team leaders...and he is actually also producing really well right now as well.
Really, the only pieces that are worth moving are Pau (which Pop will still hesitate to do out of respect for Pau's legacy), Pondexter, and Cunningham. That doesn't buy much in todays market. The latter two are fairly useless, and Pau's only real value is that he is kind of an expiring with his non-partial guarantee next year.
I'm not saying I agree with this approach. I think if you can make the right moves to improve the team, you focus on the business side of things and give up the sentiment. But the Spurs are the Spurs, so I can't say I expect for them to do that.
There is no way Spurs are trading DDR. The chances of Becky Hammon showing up pregnant are higher
Spurs took risks too hence the Pau deal. Funny you bring up Pau as a negative and CP for HOU as a positive with completely ignoring context.
HOU took risks and now are in salary cap , have no promising youth and not as much draft capital or flexibility as SA despite winning really no more than SA has in recent years. Houston has been good, but really not done much more than SA and their future is way more bleak.
You can't win without 5 men playing defense, but you can play with a four men offense. Harden is making us think you can even win with a one-man offense.
In this Spurs team, with DeRozan being the main perimeter player and Gay being a closer, the team needs more defensive players around them. White and Aldridge play correctly both ends of the court, but Rudy and Demarr are offensive players. The fifth member of the unit should be a good defensive player, ideally a good rebounder that also doesn't hurt the offense too much. Forbes clearly isn't this player. Despite his D is better, still isn't good enough vs starting PG/SG in this league.
Should the Spurs could develop a corner 3pt shot in Stan Johson, he'd become a great fit for this team.
Literally every negative aspect of resigning Pau that I and others said would happen have come to pass. Unplayable and untradeable....shocker!
He’s far from untradeable get it together. Seen 1000000x worse deals traded if need be
And yet he will still be here once the deadline passes.
Technically, Murray is that D player that's missing.
But, Stanley Johnson, for a pick, may be need to pry him loose from the Pistons.
I say, Stanley Johnson and 2nd round pick for Raptors 1st round pick.
People like to share ideas, and the Spurs will try to improve the team short or long term as best they can. Just like they always do every year around this time. But if no results come to fruition with a trade, then dumb fans will think they didn't try to do anything.
It’s a mixture of the Spurs over-valuing their players, teams afraid of the Spurs making them look dumb, front office loyalty to plays who are “loyal” to them.
Personally I like the potential of Toronto’s pick more than I like Stanley’s potential. No movement is better than a move that does not move the needle at all.
Defense is not sexy, but your argument about five guys defending seems sound. However, Harden is also making many think you can win with only 4 defenders, too!
What is this 5 defenders nonsense to make a good defense. Steph isn’t a lockdown guy, same with harden, other than some small bursts lebron isn’t that good on defense. The thunder that have hurt us in the playoffs and got to the finals once. If people think it Forbes defense is the main thing that’s keeping us from being elite, then holy .
Tbh the Spurs drafted their own version of Stanley when they picked Kyle with the 29th pick. I don't see any point in trading for him when we have proven to get better value or at the very least equal value of Stanley in the draft.
i think spurs dont trade
Agree if we're talking about next season, I'm still thinking in this one though. I think he can help our team to grow. Next season, a decent S Johnson might be an interesting bench player for a contender.
Somehow Harden has become a decent defender. He's even good in the low post. I really hate Harden's game but can't deny his success so far, they're still winning without Paul and Capela (They've added Faried and Rivers and they're helping them to win). If they add another 3&D (Ariza, Bazemore rumors say) and recover Danuel House, they will have a better roster they had last year. Morey allows D'Antoni to run his system but knows he needs defense and rebounding so he's adding more and more personnel that can deal with the dirty work (on top of Capela).Defense is not sexy, but your argument about five guys defending seems sound. However, Harden is also making many think you can win with only 4 defenders, too!
That's what good franchises do: surround their stars with that kind of players. Ideally, you want to have all-stars that also play good defense and can rebound, but there is just a handful of that elite of the elite players. Role players can do well the dirty job whilst stars create highlights with the ball in their hands. It doesn't' work the other way.
Going back to the topic, I just found this in twitter:
Kinda have that feeling except for maybe a minor one. Think they might be content to check the waiver wire after the deadline.i think spurs dont trade
Is there any talk of Parsons' being bought out if Memphis isn't able to trade him?
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