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    I can’t see this happening at the deadline tbh.
    If you believe that - then you probably have to believe LA doesn’t get him. This deadline and why Ad made the request now is to give La the most leverage possible. If they don’t get it done now then you would think their chances decline significantly

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    Give the Pels any players they want, cash, and unprotected 2021 and 2023 draft picks. it. We've had the #7, #2, and #2 <-- OVERALL picks and don't know what to do with them anyway.

    We'd have 2 of the top 5 players in the world on the same team. Our window for contention would be wide open. Vet ring chasers would want to come play with Bron and Brow.

    Make it happen Maginka! Go ALL in for this dude!

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    there is pressure i dont dismiss that.
    But as you just said yesterday the fact remains, that stars STILL wanna come here.
    IS more improtant than anything else.

    And they did not "whiff" on Kawhi stop making up , Deeps.
    They gambled and whiffed on PG13.
    We wont know about Kawhi until this off season.

    they still got bron who is easily worth more than any of those guys.
    So you can paint it as "dire" but when the best pplayer in teh NBA and potential next wanna play for your team ... that is not "dire".

    There is a sense of urgency for sure ... but Deeps keeps painting tehse dire pictures but yet AD wants to come here ...
    PG wanted to come. He never made it. Kawhi wanted to come. He’s not there and seems likely he doesn’t want to play with Bron.

    Sure some stars want to go there but no one is actually going but Bron so far. If AD gets moved to another team it’s a huge blow to LA as it means another year of Bron wasted. That’s a big deal.

    Beyond that, the reason it’s dire, is because LA was supposedly unified in their path of patience. So much for that. It’s half a season in and Bron is already pushing for major changes. The pressure is big time on.

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    Also I have not made this about the Spurs but ...
    if we wanna go there.

    Best run franchise along with the Patriots of the last 20 years ...
    GOAT level coach
    Top notch Front office
    Great scouts
    Draft well considering they never are on lottery

    And yet Aldridge is the only premier FA to sign-on ...

    the best player they have obtained since Timmy forced his way out of town and woudl prefer to play for the Lakers ...its even worse if he chooses the Clippers. The clippers.

    All things considered not much to be embarassed about ... we have Bron and we will get someone else if it's not AD.

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    Give the Pels anyone they want, cash, and unprotected 2021 and 2023 draft picks. it. We've had the #7, #2, and #2 <-- OVERALL picks and don't know what to do with them anyway.

    We'd have 2 of the top 5 players in the world on the same team. Our window for contention would be wide open. Vet ring chasers would want to come play with Bron and Brow.

    Make it happen Maginka! Go ALL in for this dude!

    Agreed - the issue is LAs best is not close to other teams best imo

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    Surely Maginka learned their Kiwi and PG13 lessons. Don't wait. Go get that MFer

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    Also I have not made this about the Spurs but ...
    if we wanna go there.

    Best run franchise along with the Patriots of the last 20 years ...
    GOAT level coach
    Top notch Front office
    Great scouts
    Draft well considering they never are on lottery

    And yet Aldridge is the only premier FA to sign-on ...

    the best player they have obtained since Timmy forced his way out of town and woudl prefer to play for the Lakers ...its even worse if he chooses the Clippers. The clippers.

    All things considered not much to be embarassed about ... we have Bron and we will get someone else if it's not AD.
    SA doesn’t rely on free agency and SA has been a good team unlike la for the past 6 years.

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    Idk . Don’t see it happening by the deadline. Well see

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    If you believe that - then you probably have to believe LA doesn’t get him. This deadline and why Ad made the request now is to give La the most leverage possible. If they don’t get it done now then you would think their chances decline significantly
    I’m saying the deal gets done but it’s not going to be under AD’s timeline. After being ridiculed for years, Demps will play hardball and will drag this as long as possible. The Lakers offer will always be there. There’s literally no reason to move him now other than to appease AD/Rich Paul.

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    Agreed - the issue is LAs best is not close to other teams best imo
    Whenever you send out a generational talent, the team acquiring him winsPERIOD. Did we get adequate compensation for Shaq? Nope. How about us letting D12 walk for nothing? Pau too. Nope and Nope. Did your Spurs get an adequate return for Kiwi? I say nope again.

    You are looking at it purely from a talent perspective. Most small market teams want cheap talent on rookie deals, expiring deals, draft picks, and/or cash in a trade. The Lakers have all of that and the leverage of knowing that he won't be a 1-year rental. No other team can say that. Not even Boston. Why, you say? Because if he wanted to be in Beantown, he makes his trade demand in April - after his lottery bound season is over (currently they are 13th in the west). That means even Boston risks giving up a package that features Tatum...for a 1-year rental? I don't see Ainge - the draft pick - doing that. Especially when they are EC contenders without AD.

    All that being said. Memphis could have gotten more for Pau in 2008. But the Lakers could provide them with cap relief (Kwame's expiring KT), young prospect (Fat Gasol), etc. It lead to 8 - which was funny AF tbh.

    What's the difference between 2008 Grizz and the 2019 Pels?

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    I’m saying the deal gets done but it’s not going to be under AD’s timeline. After being ridiculed for years, Demps will play hardball and will drag this as long as possible. The Lakers offer will always be there. There’s literally no reason to move him now other than to appease AD/Rich Paul.
    100% .
    Win win for pelicans. They wait and get better offers.
    AD threatens to sit out or he don’t play they tank . ( idk about ticket sales and )

    thats why I’m not confident at all

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    100% .
    Win win for pelicans. They wait and get better offers.
    AD threatens to sit out or he don’t play they tank . ( idk about ticket sales and )

    thats why I’m not confident at all
    It’s all conjecture at this point but for all we know the offer is not as simple as the Lakers young core. Demps is probably pitching the idea of adding a bloated contract. We’ll find out sooner or later.

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    Why everybody hating?



    SMH

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    PG wanted to come. He never made it. Kawhi wanted to come. He’s not there and seems likely he doesn’t want to play with Bron.

    Sure some stars want to go there but no one is actually going but Bron so far. If AD gets moved to another team it’s a huge blow to LA as it means another year of Bron wasted. That’s a big deal.

    Beyond that, the reason it’s dire, is because LA was supposedly unified in their path of patience. So much for that. It’s half a season in and Bron is already pushing for major changes. The pressure is big time on.
    that part we agree on there is pressure.
    Davis saying he will only re-sign here means more than PG because he is a better player.
    PG has outperformed what I thought this year ... God bless him. Never thought I would see a top 5 MVP campaign out of him.
    But sad thing for him is russ is in early stages of his decline.

    and Kawhi never said "lakers" only L.A. there have been rumors he wanted his own team so even that could not be a "whiff" if he doesnt wanna play with bron. you cant whiff on something you have no real shot at ...
    Is it a whiff that I never slept with Halle berry or Emily Ratjokowski?
    If they dont want me its not a whiff especially if i never got to shoot my shot.
    and Lakers never even met with PG but ill concede that one ... even though I mistakenly thought he wasnt worth max.
    So far he is proving me wrong.

    BTW i think that is why Lakers booed him so bad he didnt even sit with Magic even LMa sat with Mitch and Jimbo
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 01-29-2019 at 11:23 AM.

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    It’s all conjecture at this point but for all we know the offer is not as simple as the Lakers young core. Demps is probably pitching the idea of adding a bloated contract. We’ll find out sooner or later.
    agree and I dont blame him. Lakers may need a third team to make it work.

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    Why everybody hating?



    SMH
    he hated on the Pau trade too profusely ...

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    This seems relevant:

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    he hated on the Pau trade too profusely ...

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    The pressure is immense now on LA. They whiffed publicly on 2 stars to pair with Bron and everyone sees their faith in the youth was misplaced at best and negligent at worst.

    Now you have one of the last true stars available and again asking for LA to get it done. If they miss on AD despite Klutch/Bron having the inside track it may very well signal one of the most embarrassing times in LA history.

    Not to mention there are no seemingly realistic stars left. PG is out. Kawhi seems out too. If you don’t get AD which stars are even available to pair with Bron? KD seems unlikely but possible. Greek Freak seems content as does Harden.

    Everyone left is B level at best.
    immense pressure

    lebron runs the lakers now. if he brought a championship to cleveland. doing it in LA is a piece of cake.

    this is going down.

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    Why everybody hating?



    SMH
    desperate blockers

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    Cant believe some Laker fans worrying about depth

    just keep one of zubac, Ingram Kuzma Lonzo ...
    What? So NO asks for all of your young scrubs and you can have Davis and you say no?

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    What? So NO asks for all of your young scrubs and you can have Davis and you say no?
    reality is how would that even logistically work?

    they dont have a roster spot to add 5 players and lose 1 ...
    are they cutting 2 or 3 guys?

    That is why you let them choose.
    Our guys aint scrubs ... but compared to davis?
    Sure.

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    lets
    do this already
    Means jack . They can wait until free agency to get him then. No one is going to bend over for the Lakers anymore, no matter how bad Magic wants them too.

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    Whatever the reason for the hating and the blocking, sure seems to have been working for the past 6+ seasons that the alakers have been complete ...

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    Means jack . They can wait until free agency to get him then. No one is going to bend over for the Lakers anymore, no matter how bad Magic wants them too.
    guaranteed?

    demps was the same dude who thought kevin martin, luis scola and lamar odom was a great deal for a prime CP3

    you better believe he’s salivating at the idea that he’s getting a youngin jason kidd, kevin durant and marc gasol in this deal.

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