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    One player want out?!- it's cancer lol.

    New Orleans hasn't exactly helped their cause with poor decisions for years that helped get them in this predicament.

    League is collectively bargained so the owners can't the players over. Every situation is different and it's hard for me to blame AD entirely for this situation.
    Good call NO has been a disaster and a well run franchise like the Lakers deserves totally to pick them off. I mean, with NO being run so poorly I can see why going to the Lakers seems appealing.

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    Wonder if this stuff is going to become a big issue when the next CBA needs to be discussed. Not hard to see another lockout looming.

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    Wonder if this stuff is going to become a big issue when the next CBA needs to be discussed. Not hard to see another lockout looming.
    100% it will. People keep saying “it’s collectively bargained”. You know what is bargained? Honoring your contract. That if you want a trade and the team says no that you don’t get to fake or exaggerate injuries.

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    100% it will. People keep saying “it’s collectively bargained”. You know what is bargained? Honoring your contract. That if you want a trade and the team says no that you don’t get to fake or exaggerate injuries.
    As it should be.

    Some old interesting reading about CBA/Profits/Revenue Sharing : https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/09/...ng-system.html

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    100% it will. People keep saying “it’s collectively bargained”. You know what is bargained? Honoring your contract. That if you want a trade and the team says no that you don’t get to fake or exaggerate injuries.
    That and stiffer penalty on tampering. It’s outlandish. I’m old enough to have watched players like MJ who worked hard to finally beat Detroit, not join them. Players had team loyalty and to their teammates. Nowadays it’s like watching video games how often players change teams. ing millennials

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    Okafor and Faried ting on the plus minus virgins that declared them scrubs Fathead also ting on them because they declared him good....

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    The knicks are a big ass market, fa destination and all that so the fact that they’ve sucked so bad for so long is a god damn magic trick

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    I’m fine with player movement- just don’t tank your value. If you want a trade, cool. Be a good sport about it.

    Also, I’m more annoyed with these players lying. If you want LA just bc it’s sunny just say so. Don’t say you want winning and well run front offices then request LA & NY while ignoring all the other teams that deserve a shot.

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    Man really want them to get Marc Gasol big drop off when Ltrain gets rest

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    Dude already said it would be cool. Cmon RC

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    I’m fine with player movement- just don’t tank your value. If you want a trade, cool. Be a good sport about it.

    Also, I’m more annoyed with these players lying. If you want LA just bc it’s sunny just say so. Don’t say you want winning and well run front offices then request LA & NY while ignoring all the other teams that deserve a shot.
    They're conditioned to say the "right thing" due to a history of backlash from fans..

    Fans like hearing players be "all about winning", they don't want to hear anything else..it's funny, NBA fans used to complain about players being all about the money, yet now they criticize them for taking pay cuts to form more talented teams

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    According to Stephen A. Smith, Gregg Popovich spoke to GM Dell Demps this week, telling Demps not to give in to Davis or the Lakers.

    “I’ve been told that one of the people that Dell Demps has communicated with is Gregg Popovich,” said Smith on ESPN First Take, via FOX 29 San Antonio. “Not for trade talks or anything but a guy like Gregg Popovich has said, ‘Don’t cave to the Los Angeles Lakers.'”

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    Well, the Kawhi situation hurt the organization. If you demand a trade, fine, but it's when you list them A or bust it becomes an issue.

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    Good call NO has been a disaster and a well run franchise like the Lakers deserves totally to pick them off. I mean, with NO being run so poorly I can see why going to the Lakers seems appealing.
    100% it will. People keep saying “it’s collectively bargained”. You know what is bargained? Honoring your contract. That if you want a trade and the team says no that you don’t get to fake or exaggerate injuries.
    I get it; people hate that stars want to bail on small market teams and go to LA. Kareem, Shaq, CP3, Dwight, Kawhi, and now AD. It's hard to play the "honor your contract" card when teams trade players who specifically signed on to play there. LAC told Blake that he'd be a Clipper for life, not even half season later his ass got shipped to Michigan. Players aren't likely to show much loyalty when teams do the same thing.

    Wonder if this stuff is going to become a big issue when the next CBA needs to be discussed. Not hard to see another lockout looming.
    How would the league address this? Why would they risk work stoppage to try and fix it? New Orleans is likely more at fault than AD. Is there going to be a fix for teams that can't build around superstars? Hindering player movement is never going to happen, this isn't the NFL and the NBA doesn't want it to be that way. You'all sound as though this happens every year. Kawhi and AD, and Butler all did but drawing the line in the sand for a very small subset of players seems silly.

    It's also one thing to ask for a trade and to inform a team that they aren't going to re-sign. There are grey area's that would be hard to completely removed from happening. Strictly enforcing tampering laws would be a start-stripping draft picks and dispersing them to other teams within the conference and taking away cap space would be strong deterrents.

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    D'antoni players stats will always get inflated, tbh.
    Yup. Shawn Marion was case in point. When he left Pho, he turned into a 14-15 point scoring pumpkin.

    Faried is doing well because in that offense, he has a lot of space to operate. Wouldn’t be the case here.

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    I get it; people hate that stars want to bail on small market teams and go to LA. Kareem, Shaq, CP3, Dwight, Kawhi, and now AD. It's hard to play the "honor your contract" card when teams trade players who specifically signed on to play there. LAC told Blake that he'd be a Clipper for life, not even half season later his ass got shipped to Michigan. Players aren't likely to show much loyalty when teams do the same thing.



    How would the league address this? Why would they risk work stoppage to try and fix it? New Orleans is likely more at fault than AD. Is there going to be a fix for teams that can't build around superstars? Hindering player movement is never going to happen, this isn't the NFL and the NBA doesn't want it to be that way. You'all sound as though this happens every year. Kawhi and AD, and Butler all did but drawing the line in the sand for a very small subset of players seems silly.

    It's also one thing to ask for a trade and to inform a team that they aren't going to re-sign. There are grey area's that would be hard to completely removed from happening. Strictly enforcing tampering laws would be a start-stripping draft picks and dispersing them to other teams within the conference and taking away cap space would be strong deterrents.
    Give the enforcement some teeth. Fines are shrugged off as nothing. Suspend them for 10 games in cases where there is proven collusion. Start de-certifying agents who are caught. Can you imagine Rich Paul no longer able to represent players?

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    Does it look like Spurs are showing teams Pau can still play cause his spot minutes don’t make sense?

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    Give the enforcement some teeth. Fines are shrugged off as nothing. Suspend them for 10 games in cases where there is proven collusion. Start de-certifying agents who are caught. Can you imagine Rich Paul no longer able to represent players?
    Maybe, but I feel like teams shouldn't be courting other teams players so going hard after them would nip it in the bud. Hitting them with the loss of multiple draft picks ( that would be redispersed either in conference or to the team that is being interfered with, as well as losing $10 million of cap space for two seasons are pretty strong deterrents) and may be able to get more easily ratified in the next CBA. Agents would be up in arms and players (the top ones would obviously not want a possible suspension.

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    Does it look like Spurs are showing teams Pau can still play cause his spot minutes don’t make sense?
    probably more to placate him. If he were to get moved it would probably be for salary matching purposes anyway and less about his on-court game.

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    Magic, LeBron and his agent doing everything to destroy Pels leverage in this trade...

    NBA has to punish teams for tampering not just players/agents.

    The league HAS TO VETO these trades when tampering and recruiting has been public.

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    I’m fine with player movement- just don’t tank your value. If you want a trade, cool. Be a good sport about it.

    Also, I’m more annoyed with these players lying. If you want LA just bc it’s sunny just say so. Don’t say you want winning and well run front offices then request LA & NY while ignoring all the other teams that deserve a shot.
    Doubly hypocritical because the Lakers and Knicks have FOs.

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    Lebron was asked about tampering and you can almost see it in his eyes/smirk that he knows he tampered and tries (pretty pathetically) to defend it. When he denies the tampering he tries to belittle it, sounds like a little kid when they get caught lol. Question is at 2:15 in the video.


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    Interest in Marc Gasol? Mutual interest? I remember Marc talking about the Spurs organization two Gasols don't make a right. He is set to make $25 million next season. No way he opts out of that.

    Here is the link.

    http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nb...should-be-fun/

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    Problem is that
    Gasol + TOR pick for Randle + Filler
    is really hard to make work because NOP has a distinct lack of filler that will work...Also, NOP would probably want the SAS pick this year, and that's relatively expensive. Finally, Randle doesn't have a 3pt shot, which makes him a challenging fit on the roster beside LMA/Poetl. However,
    Gasol + TOR Pick for Mirotic
    does work straight up, and late first is a pretty good value for NOP (given Miro is a rental, and Gasol is owed some money next year). Also of course, Miro is a much better fit in our lineup; he definetly has a 3 pt shot (36.8% currently, and takes .
    Aldridge/Poetl
    Gay/Mirotic
    Demar/Bertans
    White/Belinelli
    Forbes/Mills
    is actually pretty balanced. You could also easily flip Bertans into the starting lineup for Gay (when he's hurt, or just to give the SL more 3pt shooting...). The questions to my mind, is how much would Miro want/get in his FA?

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