NBA Trade Deadline 2019

[HarlemHeat37]

Yup. Shawn Marion was case in point. When he left Pho, he turned into a 14-15 point scoring pumpkin.

Faried is doing well because in that offense, he has a lot of space to operate. Wouldn’t be the case here.

Weird example, Marion was an All-Star before D'Antoni even got there IIRC..

Faried is a great energy player, a solid 9th man on a team that needs easy finishing + rebounding..he's isn't a championship-level player, which is why the Nuggets dumped him from the rotation for less talented players..

[Dverde]

Magic, LeBron and his agent doing everything to destroy Pels leverage in this trade...

NBA has to punish teams for tampering not just players/agents.

The league HAS TO VETO these trades when tampering and recruiting has been public.

The owners have lost almost all power. Commissioner’s office is gutless. Stern wouldn’t be putting up this garbage, but he was terrible in different ways. Only way owners get more power will be through another lockout. Players union rep will not concede anything. She is a pit bull that loves a fight.

[exstatic]

Problem is that
Gasol + TOR pick for Randle + Filler
is really hard to make work because NOP has a distinct lack of filler that will work...Also, NOP would probably want the SAS pick this year, and that's relatively expensive. Finally, Randle doesn't have a 3pt shot, which makes him a challenging fit on the roster beside LMA/Poetl. However,
Gasol + TOR Pick for Mirotic
does work straight up, and late first is a pretty good value for NOP (given Miro is a rental, and Gasol is owed some money next year). Also of course, Miro is a much better fit in our lineup; he definetly has a 3 pt shot (36.8% currently, and takes .
Aldridge/Poetl
Gay/Mirotic
Demar/Bertans
White/Belinelli
Forbes/Mills
is actually pretty balanced. You could also easily flip Bertans into the starting lineup for Gay (when he's hurt, or just to give the SL more 3pt shooting...). The questions to my mind, is how much would Miro want/get in his FA?

Solomon Hill or Etwun Moore/Randle both work with no other players involved.

[exstatic]

Weird example, Marion was an All-Star before D'Antoni even got there IIRC..

Faried is a great energy player, a solid 9th man on a team that needs easy finishing + rebounding..he's isn't a championship-level player, which is why the Nuggets dumped him from the rotation for less talented players..

D'Antoni was the lead assistant in 2002-2003, and likely had a lot of offensive input. Shawn made the AS team that year. D'Antoni was the HC the next year.

[Dverde]

I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again. I think Randle would be a great fit for the Spurs. LMA and Randle would be great together. I would like to keep Poeltl for depth purposes.

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Solomon Hill or Etwun Moore/Randle both work with no other players involved.

Hill + Randle for Gasol pushes us into the lux tax this year, and I can't see the FO doing that. (You could say, send Cunningham with Gasol, which makes it borderline, but does Pop want to do that?)
Randle + Moore for Gasol commits us to Moore next year for the MLE (almost), as well as Randle. I don't love Moore (undersized 3 who's not very good), especially at that money...

In both cases, we'd have to cut someone, and I'm not too sure the FO does that.

Finally of course, do they do Randle for the TOR pick? Not so sure that they do...and I doubt we are willing to pay our pick. This move will not make us contenders (IMO, of course).

[RC_Drunkford]

this team needs SFs. I see no point in adding PFs

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this team needs SFs. I see no point in adding PFs

It's not like we are strong on PF's either. LMA is a C these days. Gay and Bertans are both 3/4 tweeners. Mirotic is a modern perimeter PF.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Mirotic would be the perfect add imo. Give up a 1st for him and add a pretty lethal player who was flat out dominant in last years playoffs. I think he actually gives us a chance to compete with the top teams in the west

[Spurs da champs]

It's not like we are strong on PF's either. LMA is a C these days. Gay and Bertans are both 3/4 tweeners. Mirotic is a modern perimeter PF.

Gay and Bertans are fine as 'tweeners' in today's NBA, they also both got much better foot speed to switch then Mirotic . The Spurs desperately need a SF.

[Chinook]

The Pelicans aren't getting a first for Randle straight up. The only team dumb enough to throw firsts after modest one-year upgrades is NOP themselves. And yes, Pop would send back Cun in a Hill deal. I'd hope he wouldn't add a pick to that though. Hill's negative as .

[DPG21920]

They're conditioned to say the "right thing" due to a history of backlash from fans..

Fans like hearing players be "all about winning", they don't want to hear anything else..it's funny, NBA fans used to complain about players being all about the money, yet now they criticize them for taking pay cuts to form more talented teams

They aren’t going to more talented teams. They are asking for NY and LA lol

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Gay and Bertans are fine as 'tweeners' in today's NBA, they also both got much better foot speed to switch then Mirotic . The Spurs desperately need a SF.

Which good SF do you see us getting for the TOR pick and Gasol's partial guarantee? I agree, we could use two. How do we get them?
...
In the meanwhile, Pau + TOR pick for Mirotic , improve us this year, and saves us $6.3M next summer, and gives us Mirotic's bird rights. (We might want those bird rights, because I see no path to actual cap spac

[DPG21920]

I get it; people hate that stars want to bail on small market teams and go to LA. Kareem, Shaq, CP3, Dwight, Kawhi, and now AD. It's hard to play the "honor your contract" card when teams trade players who specifically signed on to play there. LAC told Blake that he'd be a Clipper for life, not even half season later his ass got shipped to Michigan. Players aren't likely to show much loyalty when teams do the same thing.



How would the league address this? Why would they risk work stoppage to try and fix it? New Orleans is likely more at fault than AD. Is there going to be a fix for teams that can't build around superstars? Hindering player movement is never going to happen, this isn't the NFL and the NBA doesn't want it to be that way. You'all sound as though this happens every year. Kawhi and AD, and Butler all did but drawing the line in the sand for a very small subset of players seems silly.

It's also one thing to ask for a trade and to inform a team that they aren't going to re-sign. There are grey area's that would be hard to completely removed from happening. Strictly enforcing tampering laws would be a start-stripping draft picks and dispersing them to other teams within the conference and taking away cap space would be strong deterrents.

Honoring your contract isn’t about staying the entire time. It’s about not using threat of fake injuries or exaggerate injuries to hold a team hostage. It’s about not sabotaging your trade value and tampering.

Feel free to move -don’t do the above.

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The Pelicans aren't getting a first for Randle straight up. The only team dumb enough to throw firsts after modest one-year upgrades is NOP themselves. And yes, Pop would send back Cun in a Hill deal. I'd hope he wouldn't add a pick to that though. Hill's negative as .

I can see us doing
Pau + Cun for Randle + Hill
if it didn't push us into the tax, sure. But what's in it for NOP?

[Seventyniner]

In both cases, we'd have to cut someone, and I'm not too sure the FO does that.

People cut Q-Pons all the time.

[Chinook]

I can see us doing
Pau + Cun for Randle + Hill
if it didn't push us into the tax, sure. But what's in it for NOP?

They get out of Hill's deal. I know folks here are desperate for any SF, but Hill would be the worst contract on the team if traded for.

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They get out of Hill's deal. I know folks here are desperate for any SF, but Hill would be the worst contract on the team if traded for.

Sorry, I thought hill was expiring. You're right, Hill would be by far the worst deal on the team. If Hill's not expiring, I don't think SAS does that trade; it would pretty much guaranteed the lux tax next season.

[absoloot66]

People cut Q-Pons all the time.

[RC_Drunkford]

Gay and Bertans are fine as 'tweeners' in today's NBA, they also both got much better foot speed to switch then Mirotic . The Spurs desperately need a SF.

somebody understands it

[Dverde]

This is crazy time. The Spurs chances of doing a trade keeps fluctuating between 3 - 9%.

[davi78239]

I see we’re linked to Stanley Johnson again?? Hasn’t he been thrown out there for spurs the past year or two already?

[lmbebo]

I see we’re linked to Stanley Johnson again?? Hasn’t he been thrown out there for spurs the past year or two already?

Where are you reading that?

[Dverde]

Stanley Johnson...reminds me of the quest for Amir Johnson

[davi78239]

Where are you reading that?

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