In today's NBA you can basically only have 1 guy on the court who is not a three point threat. Otherwise defenses just swarm you, that dude generally needs to be your big. I am watching the Sixers vs Warriors right now and Draymond is just cheating on Embid the whole time because he doesn't need to guard Simmons off the ball. Simmons of course is still playable because he is a top level defender/playmaker/athleticism. It is worth building around him even though it is difficult and problematic. The Sixers can find enough shooters to make it work and contend for a le probably next year.
However that said DeMar is not worth building around. He is not a top level defender, athlete or play maker. He is a top level mid range shot creator. Basically what I want to ask you guys is what would be the most optimum path to move away from DeMar without feeling like we got nothing for Kiwi. Is there a path or are we just going to have ride it out with this dude until his prime is finished?
Looking for answers.
White's emergence has complicated this whole DeRozan plan..
The Spurs are better when White has the ball, but DeRozan is completely useless without the ball..can't shoot, doesn't cut, no off-ball instincts, doesn't defend, etc..
They're gonna have to use DeRozan on the ball more with White off the ball, despite the latter being more effective as a lead guard..
I never watched Toronto but didn't DeMar play off the ball there with Lowry?
It was always a bad trade. We knew it then and we know it now.
The best thing I can come up with is selling DeRozan into going back to the role he had with Toronto last season: start shooting 3's again, so he can play more off ball.
At this point, I'm pretty confident D Murray will have a better 3 point shot than DeMar when he returns. D white/Murray back court is gonna be great defensively and will actually provide better 3 point shooting than a D white/DeMar back court. Notice I said better 3 point shooting and space not exactly better offensively. Murray still has a long way to go all around to improve his offensive game. Anyway I am all for going all in on this and developing it.
Having DeMar play the 3 ? With those 2 dudes in the back court is going to kill the space, and he is not much of a threat off the ball. I just don't see it, we gotta move off this bum.
But he's an all-star
He wasn't effective off the ball in Toronto, either..Lowry was almost always the secondary ball-handler when DeRozan was on with him..
My concern with Demar is in his ball handling. He seems to have developed a knack for fumbling the ball while apparently trying too hard.
I love the dude. He maintained a positive at ude when we were 5 games under .500 and getting blown out. And for that I'm going to get his back too. I hope he can get back to relaxing and dominating with his in between game. And I believe he will.
DDR belongs with the bench.
Sorry but thats the way it is.
Interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks
That is a pile of money on the bench. No, he belongs on another team.
Think his odd fit is why Pop started to play Bertans more late in games. Still, White, Gay, and Bertans isn't a lot of spacing considering Gay and White are low volume shooters.
He's even rimming spot up/ open mid rangers. That's not good.
Seems like a great guy but yeah he's been straight up cancerous for the past month. I'm constantly hoping he's off the floor and feel like he's only keeping the ball out of White's hands. Those two straight possessions at the end of the game when Pop automatically gave him the ball when White was by far the better player all game really pissed me off--reminded me of when Pop would still turn to Parker in end of game situations during Nephew's first season as a star.
Sure, I meant in the meantime, he is a no no, worse than jeffers.
I ain't want a dude so badly off the team since Richard Jefferson........
He’s been more of a problem than good lately. Just gets in the way of the Derrick White offense. I would love to trade him but who’s gonna pay 27M a year to someone of his caliber other than us?
Seems like he's still too concerned with his PPG and with maintaining his closer label, imo. If he can just play more freely and stop worrying about stupid like that I think there might be some hope for him. Rudy doesn't do much else other than get iso buckets as well but he knows how to pick his spots and he doesn't care whether he gets his 20 every night anymore.
And no Dejounte "Instagram Baller" Muray is not going to magically be a 3PT shooter next season.
People who say this don't realize just how bad RJ actually was.
The "meantime" shouldn't be more than a handful of days if Pop has any sense.
DeRozan isn't the only one screwing up White's offense.
Gay is a big hassle too. He just refuses to give the ball to White in the backcourt. Every rebound turns into Magic Rudy.
Once again a bunch of people who don't know basketball. This team has a much better chance than last years team because of the fact that the offense now has 4 players in the starting lineup who can create their own shot as well as create for others. DeRozan is struggling right now but I'd rather watch him than watch the offense last year with Danny Green and Kyle Anderson. If we didn't have DeMar we would not have a chance at the playoffs.
Hope you guys hurry up and trade him. Cant stsnd watching him play SF on the piece of team.
What an insightful take.
Welcome to 2012.
Worry about your team getting anally sodomized by the bucks.
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