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    Unless SA wants to full on rebuild (they don’t), DeRozan seems likely to stay a Spur. It’s a bad slump and maybe it’s confidence. Maybe injury is worse than we know.

    He’s got to get right though and I think he will.
    He hasnt his entire career especially in the post season but well see first hand this year

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    DeMar in the West getting exposed? From MVP candidate to not even an All Star? In the lEast he would have easily been a borderline starter.

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    DeMar will get out of his funk in the Toronto game. He might go back to DeFrozan right after that

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    overstated (to say the least), I'm sure a team with Giannis and Simmons as starters would be extremely elite, logically this is an extreme example (only to emphasize the 4 shooters take), but if Derozan had been doing his mid-ranges and dealing better with the ball (basically playing as he did in the first part of the season), this thread would not exist, so the problem with Demar is in his decision making that was never elite, but he is still one of the strongest players in the league in relation to his position, and I really believe he can be efficient by attacking the rim

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    DeRozan isn't the only one screwing up White's offense.

    Gay is a big hassle too. He just refuses to give the ball to White in the backcourt. Every rebound turns into Magic Rudy.
    Yup. Noticed Rudy doing that.

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    I want to remember those who know "how winning basketball looks like" how players usually took more than a year too show what they can do with us (remember Aldridge first two years).
    And apply that rule to Frozen.
    I understand that his meltdowns are not welcome here as this is a franchise that was built with high character players that shut up and won. But not every player is like this, and as I said this of LMA that he learnt what it took to lead, I feel DeMar will also understand and change his mindset considering what it takes to win.
    , it seems that while kawhi didn't want that for him, there are players "mentally weak" that find comfort on the structure being their backbone.
    It seems DeMar will find this out soon enough and build on it.

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    DDR belongs with the bench.
    Sorry but thats the way it is.
    That is where his game best fits and often his best bball has come on court with Mills, Beli, Bertans, Poertl. Of course he is paid too much, and mentally could not handle coming off the bench. If the Spurs aren't willing to trade him, the best scenario is convincing him to lead that unit - let him start the game, but be first to sub out. Then he subs back in when White comes out and is primary ball handler on 2nd unit

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    With the way Derozan has been playing I really don't mind trading him. It's not just his play, which sucks, but his demeanor on the court. He looks unhappy. He looks disengaged.

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    Once again a bunch of people who don't know basketball. This team has a much better chance than last years team because of the fact that the offense now has 4 players in the starting lineup who can create their own shot as well as create for others. DeRozan is struggling right now but I'd rather watch him than watch the offense last year with Danny Green and Kyle Anderson. If we didn't have DeMar we would not have a chance at the playoffs.
    He needs to play with balls and brains, though. Lately he is awful.
    Offensively, DDR has one move that maybe only Durant has: the two dribble half-penetration jump shot from 12-14 feet, where he is literally unguardable. He should stick to that, which BTW generates the opportunity for the fake-and-step under the defender which he does pretty well. Other than that, get the f out of everbody's way.

    But I agree, IF he plays effectively, he is needed in the playoffs (and to get there, as of now not a given...). Right now, he is detrimental to the team.

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    Worry about your team getting anally sodomized by the bucks.
    is there any other way to be sodomized?

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    Cliff jumping. Demar besides being completely off rhythm is not "cancerous". He is trying his best to fit in the system now that he doesnt have the ball in his hands. Has turned into an even better defender and rebounder when he does. He is still a threat on the floor as he has the attention of the defenses. He is making the right cuts and moving off the ball. He has been a bit hampered with injuries and was off rhythm his first game back. We still need him this season and in the playoffs.

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    Is there any other way to get sodomized?
    just made the same comment, before reding yours...

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    Demar hit his peak in the first 4 weeks of the season, then cratered.

    If the Demar had been consistent, we probably would 5 to 10 more Ws

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    Demar hit his peak in the first 4 weeks of the season, then cratered.

    If the Demar had been consistent, we probably would 5 to 10 more Ws
    To 10? That's pretty bold.

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    To 10? That's pretty bold.
    Yeah. Maybe 4 or 5 more wins, not 10 though.

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    No I reject all this talk if DeMar was playing like he was in the first 4 weeks all would be good. His shoots are low percentage and doesn't shoot enough 3's to win when it counts. Also his defense is sub par. In the playoffs when there is even less space and he is talking tough 2's It will all be magnified. This is not a reaction to him struggling, DeMar simply doesn't fit into today's NBA for what he is being paid. If he was Sean Livingston of the bench fine, but not the face of the franchise with that game.

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    Seems like he's still too concerned with his PPG and with maintaining his closer label, imo. If he can just play more freely and stop worrying about stupid like that I think there might be some hope for him. Rudy doesn't do much else other than get iso buckets as well but he knows how to pick his spots and he doesn't care whether he gets his 20 every night anymore.

    And no Dejounte "Instagram Baller" Muray is not going to magically be a 3PT shooter next season.
    It's not magic... It's called practice... Just like Fox for the kings became a good three point shooter even though he couldn't shoot for when he came in the league

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    Bro I don't care about making the playoffs and getting bounced in the first round. It is about the path to building a contender let's say 3 years from now. Derozen just ruining our draft pick and taking time from developing dudes if anything.
    Someone gets it

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    The only solution is to trade... Or else be prepared for years of mediocrity

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    this isn’t just a slump, this is demar.

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    DeRe still sucking it up after resting for a week. White's emergence has left DeZitface in the the dust. The problem is how can we get rid of him for something pretty decent? Probably can't.

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    I think Pop is still trying to figure out the offense. He knows what he wants but what he wants and what the "stars" want are two different things. LMA and DeRozan each want 16-18 shots a game. Gay wants his 10 shots a game. Patty, Forbes, Marco, and Bertans are all chucking when they see daylight. We really only have one guy who doesn't care about shootin and will go out and do the dirty work in Poetl. It's funny to think back to 2005-07 when we had games where literally only 4 people scored and we won. Now we go from 4 people to everybody scoring. It's a big adjustment to say the least.

    Pop is now closing with White (which is what I said would happen before the season started) and has really given him his trust. He's a lot harder on Derrock though bc he sees greatness in him and expects more from him than he does Forbes. The difference this year is that he has to find a new way to teach Derrick bc the whole benching him for a mistake routine kills our team since we really need him playing.

    Demar is a shooter (even if it's midrange) and he needs to shoot himself out of this funk. We have potential to make the WCF this year and he's a big part of that. Next year should work out since I see Walker and Murray being on the second unit so spacing shouldn't be an issue. It takes over a year to get back into rhythm coming off an ACL tears a I expect us to bring DeJounte along slowly.

    demar has 2 seasons (in my estimation) to work with chip and get a 3 point shot. Otherwise in year 3 we should move on from him since he will be an expiring contract.

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    He’s a decent player, just a very poor fit with the current roster. Would be nice if we could trade him for picks or a decent wing. Don’t see the spurs doing that though and I don’t see anyone wanting to trade for him tbh

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    Patty, Forbes, Marco, and Bertans are all chucking when they see daylight.
    Yes and they are winning the games with their shooting.

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    Yes and they are winning the games with their shooting.
    I didn't really explain myself well now that I reread what I wrote. I meant in regards to getting White his shots. I'm not complaining at all about the 3 point squad gunning. It's just that everyone wants to shoot so it's hard for Pop to find a bigger role for Derrick.

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