In literally every year except for last year, the fan vote selects the starters for the All Star Game and Manu Ginobii had enough fan votes for one of the spots last year. In a cheaply mass marketed league where Manu got no shine, the fans were still aware enough to over the years appreciate the greatness that is Manu Ginobili - something that this league has never appreciated. A 2 time freaking All Star who was bypassed by media for the Finals MVP vote. In any situation where this league got a say, he got disrespected.
So what just happened? This year Silver decides to add an extra roster spot for DWade and Dirk? Total disrespect for the 3rd best SG after MJ and Kobe, and the Greatest International Player of All Time - Emmanuel David Ginobili.
Lol manu aren’t in the same league as wade and dirk(atleast in the NBA)
wade and dirk Consistently play in the allstar game during their primes While manu managed to get in the All Star just twice in his career..
dirk and wade are superstars of their team(although wade lost that role when Lebron joined the heat) while manu isn’t..
different story in international play though..
Last edited by skin27; 02-02-2019 at 07:56 AM.
Who cares they want to celebrate these two? They are all time greats. This doesnt diminish what Ginobili did. People just have differing opinions than you. Most put these two way ahead of Ginobili. It's just how it is.
By Silver giving Dirk and Wade a all star spot just shows that that all star voting means nothing.
The game is a total joke that doesn’t reward league play. It lets players in the game who have
not played half the games this year and not having a good year. Why don’t they just let the pimp
sports writers and ESPN pick the teams. While they are at it how about giving ESPN a $100,000,000
fine for saying day after days that all the stars should go to Los Angeles or New York on all their shows.
Manu getting only 2x ASG doesn’t mean he’s any less. He agreed to play from the bench helped get 4x championship. Anywhere else he’s a starter and could’ve gone to ASG every year.
It is what it is..you can’t change the fact that wade and dirk are on the higher status than manu..
comparing manu to hof legends like wade and dirk
Manu is 1st vote HOF. He has done more in basketball than Dirk and Wade, if you’re talking HOF and not just NBA.
I can understand op’s ire but I’m no gonna sweat that. Manu never really got the love he deserved.
Although Wade and Dirk were great and should be celebrated neither were as awesome come big games and for so long. They were but not like Gino. Especially Wade that guy hasn’t really been relevant for some time. Dirk even a few yrs ago was involved in some big games. (This is what I remember.)
I would definitely “go to war” with Manu before Wade or Dirk. If your being serious... wouldn’t you?
Man, I disagree that he has done more than Dirk for sure.
No, they're not. Manu is one of the most influential players of his generation. Get that garbage outta here.
Again HOF not NBA okay? Manu has 10 medals, including 5 gold, one of which Olympics. Dirk, 2 medals, no gold. And Manu was not just collecting medals, he was the leader of that Argentinian team. NBA, he chose to be sixth man. Who knows with some other team and if he played stats-padding, and we would never have this argument.
further diminishes all star selections as a measure of greatness, overall
but no need to cry for manu specifically
*actually watering down all stars may help manus resume a bit because he only got two ...
They should bring back the legends game at all star weeken if they’re gonna start doing this.
The precedent set is interesting. If Dirk and DWade get a honorary All-Star do all future greats get one? And will there be controversy when one is not given one? It's a bit of a Pandora's box. Not Manu so much, but where was TD's final bow All-Star appearance. If the argument is TD didn't announce his retirement in advance, well, neither has Dirk.
In the big picture I don't care. All-NBA is more important than All-Star but for some reason the later is mentioned more often in career retrospectives.
Well.. in all types of businesses people have meetings each year and discuss things. Some things take time to be created. Ever heard someone say “They didn’t have that when I was in school”? Sometimes you were just born too early and certain types of new management finally allow different factors to be acceptable. (I know it’s just basketball and not all that deep but this is just how things have been).
With that being said, I don’t really agree with this. I may agree with Wade since he announced it was his last season but Dirk didn’t.. so how often is this gonna happen?
Ive been saying that I wanted it to increase to 13 all star spots since you can dress 13 players in a real game now. But I didn’t want that 13th spot to be for honorable mention type players..
Shows that there are no "names" this year outside the big 3 of KD, Steph and Lebron. All these other guys like AD and anyone from the East is really just undercard bouts trying to fill the role of superstars. I mean, who gives a about anyone on the 76ers or KAT? Who gives a about Kawhi Leonard? Jokic?
Silver is trying to get interest in the game. There's no interest.
Dirk only got in to make it less su ious that Wade got selected, tbh..nobody that cares about the ASG wants to watch Dirk
How about Vinsanity, half-man, half-amazing. Is he being snobbed also?
AS game is a meaningless accolade, and shouldn’t bolster or diminish a player’s resume
Who gives a rats ass about the All Star game? Manu is a first round Basketball Hall of Famer (Dirk is as well).
Allen Iverson was more influential on the players of his generation than Tim Duncan was. It's because of AI you have a bunch of undersized SG's that now play the PG position. With that being said nobody would be stupid enough to say AI has higher status than Duncan as a player. Wade and Dirk status wise on the all-time great list are both clearly ahead of Manu.No, they're not. Manu is one of the most influential players of his generation. Get that garbage outta here.
Exactly. What happens if Dirk comes back next year, another honorary spot?
And the bigger issue is that as selections matter for endorsements, performance clauses, Hof induction etc
Manu still contemplating playing this season through much of the summer. Dirk and Wade announced that this would be their last season before or near the beginning of the season. Vince Carter may yet play another season the way he’s going. It’s the fact they announced it would be their last season that likely triggered this feeling that they should participate in the ASG, which btw I don’t agree with the decision. And I’m not saying Silver would have done it for Manu. But it is different cir stances.
As an NBA player, Manu does not belong in the same group that DWade and Dirk belong in. You could make a case for international basketball compe ions, but this in the NBA.
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