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true but basketball skills should matter more if you want to win championships
Record book proves Pop is right.
Plus, frankly, I prefere a team with no punks.
true but basketball skills should matter more if you want to win championships
Yeah but don’t want head cases like KY or Fultz but one thing I hate is Pop also doesn’t like passionate guys and some players need to play with emotion to be their best. But can’t complain we have been one of the most successful sports franchise in all of sports we up there with the Patriots
Yea but the patriots are in the superbowl and were um ..atleast we have patty and pau i guess
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Yep it ended with Zaza.
Enjoy 2014..
Will be interesting to see what happens post Pop. If he doesn't do any more scorched earth *loyalty-culture* contracts before he jettisons.
I don't know if it's fair to say he's awful in free agency... more likely, I'd say he works in a city that isn't considered glamorous or appealing to NBA players. Trying to sign Jason Kidd after beating the Nets in the finals was a pretty bold move, and Kidd said in later interviews he regretted his decision not to join the Spurs.
Signing Aldridge immediately yielded a 67 win season.
Robert Horry, Michael Finley, Brent Barry, Antonio McDyess, David West, Boris Diaw: all good deals for role players.
And as for trades... He traded George Hill for Kawhi Leonard and Davis Bertans.
As far as drafting goes, I agree: he's pretty much in a league of his own.
White is the real deal, and that's who the Spurs should invest in.
/sorted
Diaw was signed. Jack was traded for HWSNBN.
This.
I think there are a lot of us fans that want the instant gratification of signings or trades, but RC plays the long game.
No mid-season trades. I don’t think Pop trust inserting new talent mid-season. He’s anal about execution and would require a full season to acclimate to the culture. That’s why as much as we salivate on trade prospects, never gonna happen. I hope I’m wrong because we’re one good SF short of getting deep in the playoffs, if healthy and all the planets aligned.
when we drafted cojo over butler we hadCoJo was good too except Butler was pick immediately after him.Kawhi and Butler, kapow!
manu ginobili
danny green
kawhi leonard
richard jefferson
stephen jackson
james anderson
The wing was crowded, and behind 6-2 Tony, we had 6-0 Gary Neal and 6-0 TJ Ward
It filled the need at the time and he was a great back up PG for us on those finals runs so hard to say PATFO screwed up there. Patfo arguably have not missed much with their drating opportunities the last 6, 7 years. Probably shouldve taken Jokic or Dwight Powell on 15, but any player that’s taken half way through the second round was missed by all teams at least once.
We never had RJ and Jackson at the same time.
RC actually seems to try to make a lot of moves on the regular. It's just that he never takes dumb deals and therefore stands pat a lot. Or players just don't want to sign here. He tried to get Jason Kidd in 03, Pau Gasol in 14, he got Aldridge and West in 15. I also remember the Spurs trying to get Jermaine O'Neal to pair him with Duncan back in the day. He was inquiring about Stanley Johnson and Avery Bradley but didn't want to give up a pick last year. Inquired about Porzingis but probably didn't want to include one of our young guards in the trade. Tried to get Iguodala from the Dubs so they had to overpay him. Traded George Hill for nephew and Bertans. RC is a top GM for a reason, he just doesn't take high risks.
Well said.
Being a GM is like poker, and RC knows when to fold and wait for the next hand.
If Spurs keep both picks and Spurs get two solid players out of this years very weak draft he’ll seal the deal as GOAT GM of drafting.
He already is the GOAT drafter.
I compare RC to my mutual funds, good long-term but nothing exciting
He's in the compe ion, but there are some big fish out there; Auerbach got to steal (by hook and by crook) Russel (traded for him/the pick at 2nd) and Bird (at 6th out of 22 teams) for example...
He doesn't take on bad deals, he just signs them himself.
Russell was traded for two guys, Ed McCauley and Cliff Hagan, who eventually got into the HOF. Not exactly theft.
Bird at 6 wasn’t exactly a stroke of genius, either. Back then, before 1 and done, any of the top 10 picks were likely to be All NBA or better. Draft picks were a more finished product. Show me anything remotely like HOFs Parker and Manu.
They should put a banner in the rafters for RC after they put up Pops banner
No, he doesn't have it. He's a lazy conservative that got carried by Duncan and Parker.
He would've drafted Valenciunas with the Pacers pick if he was still on the board. That's just a fact. Kawhi just happened to be the best wing defender available and got lucky that the kid had an insane hunger to be a star.
- Murray is alright. We still don't know what he is going on to his 4th season.
- White is a stud but that draft had an insane amount of late talent. Kuzma, White, Hart, Bell, Ojeleye, T. Bryant, Dotson, D. Brooks, Monte Morris (who is as good as White)
- Walker was injury prone in college and still is. Hasn't proved anything at all.
As for the other scrubs he drafted in the first round in recent years... Fathead, Milutinov, Jean-Charles, Oseph, James Anderson. All of them are what they are. Scrubs.
Won't even get started about his performance in free agency or trading...
It's weird that you even call yourself a fan of the Spurs... you hate the coach, the GM, and most of the principle players. Why are you a fan of the Spurs?
What principle players do I hate? I'm a fan of Parker, Duncan, and Kawhi. Any others that are considered "most"? PATFO fluffer?
I've got some bad news for you.
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