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    Pau and 1 for miroritic

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    Spurs interested in Alec Burks and Hood

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    Spurs interested in Alec Burks and Hood
    I understand Hood as he could play SF. Don't quite understand Burks.

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    Source????

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    Everybody knows that. I disagree though, Gordon has enough foot speed and a decent 3-point shot. He can easily play the 3. If you want to go smaller you slot DeRozan in at the 3 and move Gordon to the 4. People said the same about Demarre Carroll yet he moved well and killed us from 3 in the last game. And if you think Dante Cunningham or Rudy Gay are better options to guard LeBron you're re ed

    Great post. I've always wanted Gordon, though it seems he has hit his ceiling already.

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    I'm not a fan of Gordon, but it's moreso due to his soft demeanor(typical light skinned) and tendency to disappear throughout games..

    I wouldn't write him off yet, though..post-SVG Orlando is where talent is wasted..very poorly constructed team and questionable direction, they're still letting a scrub like Fournier use way too many possessions..

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    Burks and Hood weird for Spurs maybe for Cunningham and Qpon to get waived

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    It's save to say the Spurs are trying to move Pau. Burks and Hood for Pau works. The question is why would you give up a first rounder for 2 expiring contracts?

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    People said Carroll couldn't guard perimeter players anymore. Last game didn't seem to prove he could. Anyway, the Spurs faced Lebron four times this season and did their jobs. Folks are crazy to act like he's been a problem for the team this year. You're apparently hoping for a LAL playoff series to justify this trade, but not only is it not even guaranteed that big, bad Lebron even makes the playoffs this year, it's also pretty apparent that Gordon really isn't a good defensive player anyway.
    Nah I actually hope the Lakers don't make the playoffs at all. Gordon might not be a good defender for the Magic, but if he plays for Pop that will change. Pop made David Lee, DeRozan and other players who were known to be bad on D play decent defense, it's almost a given he would make Gordon a solid defender. And he's 23, he didn't hit his ceiling yet.

    People here want Otto Porter and his bad contract, but when you compare his numbers to Gordon, Gordon is actually ahead in points, boards and assists while only being 2.8% worse from 3. Gordon is also 2 years younger and on a way better contract than Porter and has a better defensive rating

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...01&idx=players
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    Wizards are gunning to make the playoffs, so this isn't happening.

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    It's save to say the Spurs are trying to move Pau. Burks and Hood for Pau works. The question is why would you give up a first rounder for 2 expiring contracts?
    That's the big question. Many players out there have expiring contracts and if last year was any indicator, you can acquire these players on the cheap in the offseason.

    But Burks and Hood are both SFs.... so maybe they can do better than Cunningham and Pondexter.

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    That's the big question. Many players out there have expiring contracts and if last year was any indicator, you can acquire these players on the cheap in the offseason.

    But Burks and Hood are both SFs.... so maybe they can do better than Cunningham and Pondexter.
    they are actually SGs. Would like to have a little more size at the 3, but they can play it and are good 3-point shooters. Would improve the team this year, I just wouldn't like to give up a first rounder for them.

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    Yes, I can complain, this is what we do on Spurstalk. I have no problem trading a pick or two if it helps us this year and next. Are you saying you wouldn’t?
    I have no problem trading one of the two picks but only if it makes sense so long as the player fits. Giving up two is silly because it is almost certainly a drastic overpay unless it's for a very good player on a multi year deal.

    Being loose with draft assets is how Memphis got into trouble, Spurs historically have done an excellent job of making the most of low first's, giving them two cracks at finding another steal sounds much better than many of the trade options I have seen.

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    they are actually SGs. Would like to have a little more size at the 3, but they can play it and are good 3-point shooters. Would improve the team this year, I just wouldn't like to give up a first rounder for them.
    What about giving away Milutinov? Surely some team needs a big?

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    I have no problem trading one of the two picks but only if it makes sense so long as the player fits. Giving up two is silly because it is almost certainly a drastic overpay unless it's for a very good player on a multi year deal.

    Being loose with draft assets is how Memphis got into trouble, Spurs historically have done an excellent job of making the most of low first's, giving them two cracks at finding another steal sounds much better than many of the trade options I have seen.
    I would actually prefer to move the Toronto pick IF we could acquire a good player on a multi-year deal. We have an unusually high number of young players (that I like); adding two more young prospects to develop doesn't sound like the Spurs - and for good reason. Too many young guys is not optimal roster construction. A good young veteran would be preferable to another young prospect. My second preference would be to trade both firsts to move into the lottery - assuming there is a targeted player available.

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    I’m inclined to stand pat. The calculus has changed: this is about bringing in young cost controlled talent during these transition years and less about making a move to beef up a roster for championship run now.

    I don’t know enough about Gordon (Orlando seems like a painful team to watch). But that seems like the TYPE of move that could make sense: a misfit/reclamation project that the team sees something in, who is in his early 20s to match the White-Murray core, and has some level of cost control.

    Don’t see the point in going after a player who is on the DDR or LMA timeline (like Ariza) to be honest. Rather the spurs keep the picks and take the benefit of stretching Gasol. Make moves for “stars” or players to set themselves up for 2 years from now.

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    The Golden State Warriors and San Antonio Spurs are reportedly among the teams that are tracking Cleveland Cavaliers swingman Rodney Hood.

    According to Cleveland.com's Chris Fedor, the Cavs have received "multiple offers" for Hood leading up to the Feb. 7 trade deadline.

    Fedor noted the Warriors are "keeping an eye on" Hood and the Spurs have "shown interest."

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    The Golden State Warriors and San Antonio Spurs are reportedly among the teams that are tracking Cleveland Cavaliers swingman Rodney Hood.

    According to Cleveland.com's Chris Fedor, the Cavs have received "multiple offers" for Hood leading up to the Feb. 7 trade deadline.

    Fedor noted the Warriors are "keeping an eye on" Hood and the Spurs have "shown interest."
    Cheap, no financial commitment, since he’s a UFA this summer. I’m not even sure his Bird Rights convey, since he accepted his year 5 QO. I might flip a second rounder, or wait for buyout time.

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    I have no problem trading one of the two picks but only if it makes sense so long as the player fits. Giving up two is silly because it is almost certainly a drastic overpay unless it's for a very good player on a multi year deal.

    Being loose with draft assets is how Memphis got into trouble, Spurs historically have done an excellent job of making the most of low first's, giving them two cracks at finding another steal sounds much better than many of the trade options I have seen.
    I think it’s wrong to compare us to Memphis. Most of Memphis’ mistakes were done via Free Agency. Giving out bad contracts to Chandler Parsons, Jymichael Green, Kyle Anderson. Giving the supermax to Conley. They have changed coaches three times in six seasons. We have plenty of young players right now. If we don’t have a first round pick one year the world will keep spinning. We used draft and stash draft picks all the time. Sometime you have to “overpay” to get a player you want via trade.

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    The Golden State Warriors and San Antonio Spurs are reportedly among the teams that are tracking Cleveland Cavaliers swingman Rodney Hood.

    According to Cleveland.com's Chris Fedor, the Cavs have received "multiple offers" for Hood leading up to the Feb. 7 trade deadline.

    Fedor noted the Warriors are "keeping an eye on" Hood and the Spurs have "shown interest."
    I wouldn’t mind getting Hood or Burks but idk how much they actually would improve the team, I don’t know to much about them

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    I wouldn’t mind getting Hood or Burks but idk how much they actually would improve the team, I don’t know to much about them
    Spurs are in need of a serviceable SF. If Hood costs next to nothing, then its worth it. https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2019/...d-sources.html

    Cleveland wants something back though.

    Burks seems to have higher percentages.
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    Nah I actually hope the Lakers don't make the playoffs at all. Gordon might not be a good defender for the Magic, but if he plays for Pop that will change. Pop made David Lee, DeRozan and other players who were known to be bad on D play decent defense, it's almost a given he would make Gordon a solid defender. And he's 23, he didn't hit his ceiling yet.

    People here want Otto Porter and his bad contract, but when you compare his numbers to Gordon, Gordon is actually ahead in points, boards and assists while only being 2.8% worse from 3. Gordon is also 2 years younger and on a way better contract than Porter and has a better defensive rating

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...01&idx=players
    I don't hate Gordon as much as some folks here do. I just don't think he can play the three. Like I think a Gay, Gordon, Aldridge perimeter would struggle. The Magic have tried playing Aaron at the three his whole career and it just hasn't worked, and giving up assets and committing to a long-term deal in the hopes he can figure it out doesn't jive with me. Also, I don't think it makes sense to say Pop would make Gordon a good defender. Pop doesn't turn crap into gold. He targets players he thinks can work and adds them. In that regard, if the Spurs were to trade for Gordon, I'd be fine with it, because it would suggest they had a plan to get the best out of him. I just think that would be more as a Gay replacement at the four than it would be as a three in this current roster.

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    I think it’s wrong to compare us to Memphis. Most of Memphis’ mistakes were done via Free Agency. Giving out bad contracts to Chandler Parsons, Jymichael Green, Kyle Anderson. Giving the supermax to Conley. They have changed coaches three times in six seasons. We have plenty of young players right now. If we don’t have a first round pick one year the world will keep spinning. We used draft and stash draft picks all the time. Sometime you have to “overpay” to get a player you want via trade.
    Memphis has flubbed numerous first round over the past dozen seasons that could've changed their prospect's (the Thabeet picks) as well as shipping away their 2011, 2013 and 2017 picks with not really anything to show for it other than a brief stint of Shane Battier. That doesn't even include the disastrous trade with the Celtics that will cost them a high lottery pick sooner or later.

    I am not saying that not having a pick is a nightmare bit sounds like you're saying that the Spurs should just give these picks away this year but don't have a specific trade in mind.

    Moving the Raptors pick may be useful but it is probably better to keep the 21st and 28th picks and try to package them for like the 14 pick and potientially grabbing a wing that could help us for a decade.

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    Things that would be nice but won't happen:

    https://basketball.realgm.com/tradec..._trade/7174444

    SAS out : Pau, Cunningham, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
    SAS in : Mirotic, Hood

    CLE in : Pau, FRP TOR 2019, SRP SAS 2019
    CLE out : Hood, Burks, SRP CLE 2020

    NOP in : Burks, SRP CLE 2020
    NOP out : Mirotic

    Not sure the balance is right on the picks, but SAS turns Gasol/Cunningham (or Pondexter) into more viable rotation players (not to mention avoiding the $6.3 M owed to Gasol next summer) in return for a first and a second. NOP turns Mirotic into a future asset, CLE tanks harder for Zion and gets a FRP and a SRP as a profit ...

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