If anybody thinks, that the young core of the lakers is overrated, because they didnt had success in their very young careers, than you have to say that Anthony Davis is also overrated or even a bust, because he has won nothing in the 6/7 years with the pels. To make that kind of measurement on the skills of players is stupid.
Still the Offer from the Lakers are headscratching. From the 5 young players they have at least 4 of them should be offered.
Apparently the asking price for Davis is; a Vet, young players and draft picks. LA, Bryn and Toronto's first round pick could do it.
AD values royalty, and a winning culture, so I think we have a good chance of resigning him. And it's a risk am willing to take, given that LA is not going to play any better than this and with him at HIS BEST we are 6th and probably 1st round exit.
Nope give em DePression, Bryn and Lonnie, and whatever draft picks they want. We are talking about AD here. Dijon, White, Rudy, AD and LMA that team is scary, with Davis and Belly off the bench
Actually 5th and. Spurs don’t need another Kawhi situation that was dumb
Let me spell it our for you, DeMar not playing his best B-ball (new team, new system) is scoring 21.2 points per game for us and LaMarcus at his best is scoring 21.1, hmm Okay pall, whatever. Are you aware one is 29 year olds and the other 33? One can create for others and himself and the other needs to be fed the ball at his preferred spots in order to be effective?
Anyone else think Wagner is way better than Zubac? Why isn't he getting minutes?
thanks If they can get AD to commit, he’ll be the next building block and I would give LMA, Pau’s expiring, Murray, Milutinov’s rights, picks and the Coyote.
The young core of the Lakers is ALWAYS overrated, no matter the year, era, coaching regime, or FO. It's the nature of sports 'media' to do so.
As to your other point, there are different levels of progression to attain. The lowest level is where the Laker youth is now: foundering, not putting up numbers, not winning. I'm not the biggest AD fan, but he has been extremely successful personally, scoring in gobs, cleaning the glass, and this year, making his 4th straight 1st team All NBA team. To compare the Lakers Youth to him just because neither had playoff success is disingenuous, and the worst kind of false analogy.
yea but while some here might question his heart, LMA has shown the ability to be the man in SA while every negative character flaw I have heard about Demar is being magnified to a terrifying degree. So much so while LMA hasn't performed at Timmay levels in the playoffs I have seen him perform well in them, Demar is very close to the Harden level playoff choke factor and has been knowns to go into the fetal position when he sees LeBron's shadow.
lol 120 page thread coming up if he's mentioned Spurs - of course with no intention whatsoever, other than positive press.
Bucks and Clippers are two other teams Davis is willing to sign long-term with. No mention of th the Spurs
Odd list....
I get the Clippers, Lakers, and Knicks, but I don't understand the Bucks unless he's liking what they're building there with Greek Freak and coach Bud.
If the Lakers are giving up all that youth and future let em. They ain't winning anything with two guys.
I truly don’t understand you people. Their youth is medicore at best and not good at worst. Giving up a bunch of crap that statistically is replaceable for something that is statistically rare would be franchise changing.
If NO caves for that terrible offer they will be fired in a year or two because of the decision. LA would not only be losing negative players for the most part, but opening up cap space to build alongside AD/Lebron.
Fake Trade :
AD+fillers (Solomon Hill, Moore?) to Houston for CP3 and Capella
Works financially, CP3 can play out his career where it started
Also, you know there will be a bevy of players willing to take a pay cut to team up with Lebron and AD, just like happened in Miami and Cleveland 2.0
Whoever thinks that needs to go watch another sport. Basketball isn't for them.
The Lakers young players are all trash, IMO. Ingram is inefficient, not overly skilled and has a weird at ude. Kuzma is a chucker who can't shoot or play defense. Ball has a broken shot and his baggage overwhelms his value. Hart is like the homeless version of Derrick White. Zubac would have been valuable 20 years ago.
To make matters worse, you'll have to overpay them once they hit free agency due to them being hyped to in the Lakers hype machine.
If Dell Demps has any brain cells, he won't even think about trading Davis for the Lakers negative assets and some picks.
That’s what Ive been saying, but evidently there are people that think LA would be overpaying
To make matters worse, NO seems bent on sending out Hill in the deal which theoretically weakens the quality of picks/players they would get.
Hill, while overpaid and not good, only has one year left. NO is not a free agent destination and forcing Hill into any deal for no good reason instead of just eating that year is stupid.
LA has the worst package and I can’t believe this is even being discussed. If NO goal is picks, taking on Hill and players:
1) Every team has the picks to stack up to LA, many teams have much better picks
2) Everyone would be willing to eat Hill’s one year deal (kind of like SA with Pau, no need to trade a pick to dump Pau, just let it expire after one more season)
3) So if 1 & 2 are true above, then it really boils down to the players. Can NO really think Kuz/Ingram/Ball or Kuz/Ingram/Whatever LA gets in a Ball trade is better than what other teams can offer? If that is the bar to beat, regardless of what AD and his agent is saying now about him being a rental you pull the trigger because that is a low price to pay. Even if AD walks, if all you lost was players the quality of Ingram/Ball/Kuz you aren’t really set back.
That Lakers offer still looks like , they don't have enough. The Spurs can put together a better offer and I don't think they even have enough for AD.
How valuable is Davis? I think Kuzma and Ingram can turn into solid players. Stars? No. Maybe Ingram, but like you mentioned he's not consistent. Could be because LeBron is there now. Who knows if he changes that when he plays as the main focal point. However, if you're the Pelicans you have to ask yourself why are the Lakers willing to give up all these young players?
We’ve seen LAs young guys with no Bron. They sucked. We’ve seen them with Bron. They suck. I mean how many more scenarios do you need to see?
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