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Nothing in the league is as overhyped as a young player on the Lakers. It's always been like that.
If you're starting a franchise from scratch right this second, the only player you take before Davis is maybe Giannis. Even then, a player like Davis is easier to build around than Giannis.
LeBron, Curry and probably Harden are better right now but Davis has more value in a vacuum when factoring in his age.
Nothing in the league is as overhyped as a young player on the Lakers. It's always been like that.
Spurs can take on Hills contract for an expiring.
Spurs have more/better draft picks than Lakers.
White/Dejounte/Lonnie is a more intriguing core of young players right now than Lonzo/Ingram/Kuz. If thats the bar, go get AD SA.
Pau + Rudy + Lonnie + DJ + White + 3 first round picks for AD + Hill (something like that)
Lets be realistic, we are not on his list because Pop is probably a retired man at the end of the season. If i'm the Pelicans i wait and see if the Knicks get the No1 overall pick and then i do business with them, Lakers offer will still be there in the summer.
That has nothing to do with it. He's actually not done after this season unless something crazy happens.
Even if the Knicks don't get the number 1 pick, they should still check a lot of boxes: Top 4 pick, Knox, Smith (exact type that's easy to sell to masses and would fill a need) and the 2 Mavs 1sts for starters. There's also Ntilikina, Robinson, Dotson and Trier as lesser pieces.
Maybe, but the Spurs young core lacks the draft pedigree, cache, durability, are too much of an unknown and none are the most desired player types in this era (big wings).
Sure, none of the Lakers young core is good, but a big part of trades of this magnitude is being able to sell your ownership, fans (hardcore ones are always in the minority) and media things like you received a former high pick(s), who's already averaged 15-20 ppg (even if on poor efficiency) and other largely irrelevant information that they can lap up. None of the Spurs young core are marketable in that sense.
AD and S.Hill
For
Pau, Gay, Bertans, White, Walker, Murray, this year's two first round picks and next season's one.
I doubt NOLA can get much better offers, tbh.
I don't know if I do it if I'm the Spurs though.
Mills, Forbes, DeRozan, Davis, Aldridge.
Belinelli, Cunningham, Poeltl
Is worse than what we have right now. Good luck trying to sell Davis to stay with that type of roster.
The deal I would do without a doubt is seeing if NOLA is willing to trade AD for either DeRozan (preferrably) or Aldridge. Demps said he wanted an all-NBA player in return. DD and LA are that.
i dont think the pels will value white/murray/walker more than ball/ingram/kuzma.
gay/pau are just cap filler. just like the lakers offering rondo/lance/beasley
if the spurs convinced the pels to take derozan as part of a package for AD it would be a massive heist tbh, and suddenly the kawhi trade would look amazing.
You are forgetting Bertans.
White/Bertans/Murray/Walker is easily better than Ball/Ingram/Kuzma. People in charge of NBA franchises can't be fairweather followers that just go with media perception. They have to actually study . Any half-assed analysis shows you that White and Bertans alone are more valuable than anything the Lakers have to offer.
The sad part is I'm convinced the Spurs won't even try to figure out if that's even a possibility because "it wouldn't be fair".
i'm not telling you which package i'd prefer. i'm guessing what the pels would prefer. draft pedigree still matters in the players first couple of years.
is there any rule barring the spurs from trading derozan until a certain date?
The date has passed, he can be traded anywhere except Toronto (forget date that restriction expires, not that it matters)
you, Magic. That's what you should've offered the Spurs for Kawhi.Los Angeles Lakers president Magic Johnson made a more robust bid for New Orleans Pelicans All-Star Anthony Davis on Monday, offering multiple young players, including Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma, as well as draft picks and salary-cap relief to the Pelicans, league sources told ESPN.
You drunk? They both averaging 18 points at age of 21 and 23. Shoot near 50%. That's medicore? Spurs have nothing like that. You take away two threats for one? How long does LBJ have left? Not winning this year or next. Age 37 then what? Retires and they left with AD who will cry and leave..
Are we pretending Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma is a robust offer? Anthony Davis can do everything Kyle Kuzma does a lot better. Lonzo/Ingram don't fit together. If Lonzo has a good mindset then yeah he could turn out to be a really good player if he develops into a better shooter over the years, but with his dad being involved I don't see that working out as planned. Ingram sucks, him and Lonzo need the ball in their hands and can't really play off each other.
LMA, Patty Mills and Craig CIA Pop for AD and Alvin Gentry.
AD said he wanted to go to a perennial winner. Then added the Knicks but not Spurs to his list.
The thing the Spurs have going for them is Pop's reputation as a coach, nothing else if we are being honest. Its pretty obvious from the teams that AD listed as options there are either big markets expected to lure free agents or top 5 players(Giannis). I hope you are right and Pop isn't done after this season but its very possible imo.
Haven't you all learned from the Kawhi bull last year--why on God's green earth would you want a guy of that caliber on your team again?
At least now it's clear why LA didn't sell the farm to get Kawhi from us. They has straight inside knowledge on this from Lebrons agent that this was gonna happen with AD this year. So they made a ty ass trade offer to the Spurs and figured hey no sweat of he doesn't come bc we will get AD when he demands to be traded in a couple of months.
Looks that way. But passing on Kawhi/PG is silly still. If they had Lebron and Kawhi via trade, they could have had the cap space when AD is a free agent and if AD is truly willing to walk to LA now, he would have been with those two players.
But Bron/Klutch did a full on destabilization campaign in NO and it’s bull crap.
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