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    I've said this on the game thread already but I think it deserves its own thread. Reality has finally set for my expectations with this team as constructed with the likelihood that no trade will be made and that a waiver pickup will also probably not be in the cards. But here are my thoughts after coming home from tonight's game:

    This was the biggest blowout I've witnessed at the hands of a King's team in my 18+ years of attending Spurs at Kings games. That's all that really needs to be said. Just not the same Spurs we've been spoiled by in the past. 112 points should be enough to beat teams like these and it's frustrating to see how much pressure is put on the offense to have to trade baskets and not miss for 6 consecutive possessions, otherwise the opposing team eventually controls the game. One can say our offense can't keep up with other, younger offenses when they're on fire but 112 points is alot on the road. We shouldn't have to depend on only one player in White to restore some balance off the perimeter defense. We desperately need a trade to stand a chance defensively against higher seeds in the playoffs but even just to win any series without having to go to a likely game 7. That's not to say the offense is perfectly fine the way it is. The shot selection is simply baffling. I've said it before and I'll say it again Forbes has no business taking nearly as many shots as our 3 best players...EVER. But he does. Time after time again. What exacerbates that is that we have another chucker in Mills, who took way too many shots in the 4th as he has consistently done. Pop needs to restrain them offensively because they aren't good enough to merit that kind of aggressiveness when we have LMA, DeRozan and Gay. Even Bertans and Belinelli deserve more shot attempts than those two guys. But back to our lack of defense, we can absorb having chuckers like that if our d wasn't so awful, particularly at the perimeter. Unfortunately, it seems PATFO are intent to settling for the way it is because, "hey Murray got hurt what can we do?" I have to remember that we beat Kawhi at San Antonio and that was our primary goal for the season. Beating Kawhi at Toronto should make it more than we can hope for given this lackluster roster. I know none of you expect this team to ring this year but it would be nice if PATFO weren't so deadset against midseason trades. It would be nice to see a better product on the floor and maximize LMA's best years left in his tank. But all this begs the question: If Championship expectations are out of the question, then why keep LMA now?
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    White really is the most important player on this team, tbh.

    Wouldn't mind sending LMA+whatever to go get AD.

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    Trading is easier said than done, especially when the team is stocked with untradable assets. Perhaps liabilities is a more appropriate description. This is what we get when PATFO overpaid for garbage that nobody else wants.

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    There’s nothing the team can realistically do to improve their chances, especially this year. This is a learning season for them and they should be improved next year with the return of Murray and improvement of Walker.

    In a dream world they trade back DeRozan for Nephew. But that’s not gonna happen. If I were PATFO, I would take offers for DeRozan. Instead they will just accept him on their team and use him to his best advantage. It’s good enough for this team to make the playoffs but they are currently a 1st round exit as their ceiling.

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    Time to be real about these types of threads...nothing can make these any more bearable than the last 2,432 threads like this in the last 90 days.

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    White really is the most important player on this team, tbh.

    Wouldn't mind sending LMA+whatever to go get AD.
    well, Demps would laugh at this proposal, so ok.

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    There’s nothing the team can realistically do to improve their chances, especially this year. This is a learning season for them and they should be improved next year with the return of Murray and improvement of Walker.

    In a dream world they trade back DeRozan for Nephew. But that’s not gonna happen. If I were PATFO, I would take offers for DeRozan. Instead they will just accept him on their team and use him to his best advantage. It’s good enough for this team to make the playoffs but they are currently a 1st round exit as their ceiling.

    I dont see walker improving tbh

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    There’s nothing the team can realistically do to improve their chances, especially this year.
    That's not true, there are plenty of good wings available. Trading Gasol for a SF would do wonders THIS season

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    A trade sounds nice but who's really out there? And don't say Otto porter please. We are the 05 Phoenix Suns right now in that we depend all on offense and play zero defense. Stanley Johnson can't shoot. It's not a matter of will he learn how to shoot it's that he can't. He won't play well with the starters and he won't play well with the bench so he's out. We just had an off-night from 3 but the way the roster is constructed was there's a giant bleeping hole at SF. Imagine that. In reality our roster was pretty amazing and we could've ring this year if Kawhitter didn't quit. This year is a wash. It's unfortunate but it really is. RC needs to hold on to our draft picks for his dear life bc he could maybe pull off a trade for a player he really wants, get lucky and our player that we want falls to us, or take a chance on a player he normally wouldn't take a chance on bc of the pressure of getting the one pick right. Nearly every trade scenario for a wing, the Spurs could get an equal wing (potentially better) in the draft and pay him a lot less than like $26 million a year.

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    I dont see walker improving tbh
    Someone please sticky this! The dude is basically a sop re.......he’ll improve

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    If we could get Prince or Stanley i’d do it. I also still would like to see Huestis and Moore....

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    Someone please sticky this! The dude is basically a sop re.......he’ll improve
    after 2-3 years walker is not on the team anymore..yeah you read it here first

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    I've said this on the game thread already but I think it deserves its own thread. Reality has finally set for my expectations with this team as constructed with the likelihood that no trade will be made and that a waiver pickup will also probably not be in the cards. But here are my thoughts after coming home from tonight's game:

    This was the biggest blowout I've witnessed at the hands of a King's team in my 18+ years of attending Spurs at Kings games. That's all that really needs to be said. Just not the same Spurs we've been spoiled by in the past. 112 points should be enough to beat teams like these and it's frustrating to see how much pressure is put on the offense to have to trade baskets and not miss for 6 consecutive possessions, otherwise the opposing team eventually controls the game. One can say our offense can't keep up with other, younger offenses when they're on fire but 112 points is alot on the road. We shouldn't have to depend on only one player in White to restore some balance off the perimeter defense. We desperately need a trade to stand a chance defensively against higher seeds in the playoffs but even just to win any series without having to go to a likely game 7. That's not to say the offense is perfectly fine the way it is. The shot selection is simply baffling. I've said it before and I'll say it again Forbes has no business taking nearly as many shots as our 3 best players...EVER. But he does. Time after time again. What exacerbates that is that we have another chucker in Mills, who took way too many shots in the 4th as he has consistently done. Pop needs to restrain them offensively because they aren't good enough to merit that kind of aggressiveness when we have LMA, DeRozan and Gay. Even Bertans and Belinelli deserve more shot attempts than those two guys. But back to our lack of defense, we can absorb having chuckers like that if our d wasn't so awful, particularly at the perimeter. Unfortunately, it seems PATFO are intent to settling for the way it is because, "hey Murray got hurt what can we do?" I have to remember that we beat Kawhi at San Antonio and that was our primary goal for the season. Beating Kawhi at Toronto should make it more than we can hope for given this lackluster roster. I know none of you expect this team to ring this year but it would be nice if PATFO weren't so deadset against midseason trades. It would be nice to see a better product on the floor and maximize LMA's best years left in his tank. But all this begs the question: If Championship expectations are out of the question, then why keep LMA now?



    A trade sounds nice but who's really out there? And don't say Otto porter please.
    Otto porter

    after 2-3 years walker is not on the team anymore..yeah you read it here first
    Nope, I already read this in several other places. Sorry.

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    A trade sounds nice but who's really out there? And don't say Otto porter please. We are the 05 Phoenix Suns right now in that we depend all on offense and play zero defense. Stanley Johnson can't shoot. It's not a matter of will he learn how to shoot it's that he can't. He won't play well with the starters and he won't play well with the bench so he's out. We just had an off-night from 3 but the way the roster is constructed was there's a giant bleeping hole at SF. Imagine that. In reality our roster was pretty amazing and we could've ring this year if Kawhitter didn't quit. This year is a wash. It's unfortunate but it really is. RC needs to hold on to our draft picks for his dear life bc he could maybe pull off a trade for a player he really wants, get lucky and our player that we want falls to us, or take a chance on a player he normally wouldn't take a chance on bc of the pressure of getting the one pick right. Nearly every trade scenario for a wing, the Spurs could get an equal wing (potentially better) in the draft and pay him a lot less than like $26 million a year.

    I know Porter isn't that huge name but he might be the best type of player we'd be able to get in these days. The dreams of getting that top superstar in San Antonio seem pretty distant, even with Aldridge, would he have came if he didn't have his family in texas, who knows but that was probably the number one reason for him. More and more all these guys just want to play with each other in a big city. Dave and Tim are relics. Now players just won't play and will get fined and tank their value to get where they want to be.

    So with the Warriors sparking this arms race, I don't see the Spurs being able to compete in that same way. I wouldn't be surprised if the Knicks even land some big name players before the Spurs do despite NY's never ending inadequacies as an organization. I see a few teams with stacked rosters of guys who plan to play with each other and the smaller less preferred markets having to pull some mid 2000's piston's type rosters outta their asses, not as in that kind of play style but more like, "hey these guys kinda work when you put them all together."

    What top players that immediately change a teams ceiling do you think would want to play in SA...I mean like the Durant's of the league. Can you name any without hesitation? I'd be lying if I said I could.

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    They have excellent role players and 4 and 5th level options all around. They need that third scoring option, preferably at SF that is consistent and not injury prone.

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    Yous are overreacting ..this king team is simply a bad matchup for us . They’re much quicker ,play with more energy and they were home . It was always gonna be a L imo

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    I might be the biggest Pop stan but even i think he needs to retire at the end of the season so we can finally tank for at least 2 season if not more. I would only keep White, Murray, Davis B. Of course if you want to tank you need tank commanders and we have a lot of those so we keep them too. Trade (if you can) Derozan and LMA or let them go if there is no other way.
    Spurs should never become a treadmill of mediocrity. Give Becky the keys for the transitional period and see if she has it.

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    Yous are overreacting ..this king team is simply a bad matchup for us . They’re much quicker ,play with more energy and they were home . It was always gonna be a L imo
    True and people need to stop acting like we’d have a chance against Denver in the playoffs then because they have young athletic players too surrounded by Jokic. Plus they would have that great al ude home court advantage.

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    I don't care about a trade. We do not have assets that anyone wants. I want Walker to play over Cunningham and Pondexter. I would like to see Walker get 15-18 minutes a night.

    I would like to see Gasol never play another minute unless the Spurs are up or down by 20 with under 3 minutes to play.

    With White, Murry, and Walker, Spurs could have nice young pieces going into next season.

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    True and people need to stop acting like we’d have a chance against Denver in the playoffs then because they have young athletic players too surrounded by Jokic. Plus they would have that great al ude home court advantage.
    Playoffs are a different animal . Denvers inexperience will hurt them

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    Playoffs are a different animal . Denvers inexperience will hurt them
    What playoff winning experience do we have...? Pau has the most and he’s useless.

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    A trade sounds nice but who's really out there? And don't say Otto porter please. We are the 05 Phoenix Suns right now in that we depend all on offense and play zero defense. Stanley Johnson can't shoot. It's not a matter of will he learn how to shoot it's that he can't. He won't play well with the starters and he won't play well with the bench so he's out. We just had an off-night from 3 but the way the roster is constructed was there's a giant bleeping hole at SF. Imagine that. In reality our roster was pretty amazing and we could've ring this year if Kawhitter didn't quit. This year is a wash. It's unfortunate but it really is. RC needs to hold on to our draft picks for his dear life bc he could maybe pull off a trade for a player he really wants, get lucky and our player that we want falls to us, or take a chance on a player he normally wouldn't take a chance on bc of the pressure of getting the one pick right. Nearly every trade scenario for a wing, the Spurs could get an equal wing (potentially better) in the draft and pay him a lot less than like $26 million a year.
    Bazemore, Taurean Prince, Aaron Gordon, Burks, Ross just to name a few. I would not give up a 1st round pick for them, but if you can get one of them on a reasonable deal or in the buy out market you do it. Ross for example can be had for 2 2nd rounders

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    people who think tanking automatically fixes everything are funny. look at the bottom feeders in the league and how long they have been tanking for

    Spurs are not a championship team right now but who is besides the Warriors?

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    What playoff winning experience do we have...? Pau has the most and he’s useless.
    Patty? Belinelli? LMA ,Demar(even tho he sucks in the playoffs)

    Denver has literally one player in their rotation with playoff experience and that’s Mason Plumlee.

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