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I don't get it. Easily replaceable role players and warm bodies in draft slots who almost never become significant players are worth more to you than one of the few true franchise players in this league?
Also the Celtics gave up Al Jefferson who was so far superior to anything the Lakers can offer right now.
I don't get it. Easily replaceable role players and warm bodies in draft slots who almost never become significant players are worth more to you than one of the few true franchise players in this league?
cant force Pelicans to make a fair deal.An inept front office telling LeBron "well, we tried!" is what made him leave Cleveland the first time. That's the type of that might snap LeBron out of retirement mode and make him start demanding a trade.
We aint the cavs
give us SGA, Tobias 4 first round Picks and eat a crap contract and you can have Bron too.
I am not capitu;atin my whole franchise for Bron davis or anyone else.
We offered a lot if they dont want that you move on.
I want davis but there is a cost I wont pay.
You guys would suck at negotiatiions, btw.
yeah al jeff was a 22 year old breakout big man at a time where the position hadn't gone extinct yet. they were able to rent him for a few years and traded him to utah for 2 first round picks
i used to really like al jeff. iirc dude took less money than minnesota was offering him because he felt he needed to prove himself before accepting max money. he became a fat loser near the end in utah though
Nope Im just not compromising cap space, giveing up picks for teh next 8 years and giving away 5 players ... when no opther trade KG, shaq, Pau etc cost this much.
Three young scrubs or four low first round picks with guaranteed money is hardly a fair deal for Davis.
Didn't he have a horrible injury near the end of his Minnesota run?
There's no "fair deal" to be had with the Lakers at all. The Lakers have nothing but garbage to offer, and they're only in the discussion because of tampering and AD trying to force his way there.
Maybe so, but GM Magic will always be "capitulating." Trading LeBron would get the Lakers blackballed by all major free agents for decades, especially Klutch clients.give us SGA, Tobias 4 first round Picks and eat a crap contract and you can have Bron too.
I am not capitu;atin my whole franchise for Bron davis or anyone else.
You're grossly exaggerating; you're giving up picks for four years and are you really counting rentals like Rondo/KCP/Beasley towards that total? If you have Kawhi or KD saying they're coming then yeah, keep that capspace open because they're every bit as good as Davis. If not what, you're going to save that capspace to max out Boogie, Klay, or Butler? You talk about how much you hate max contracts for players who aren't legit game changers but that's what you're stuck with if Kawhi or Durant aren't coming.
To me it sounds insane to say nope we're not trading three below average players, some salary filler, and four borderline NBA players with guaranteed money for Anthony Davis and half a year of a bad contract we could flip next year for a real asset.
Also I don't think you're a bit off on the capspace argument. Even without taking the Solomon Hill contract the Lakers would have an extremely hard time opening a 30% max slot (Leonard) and would have absolutely no way to open a 35% max slot (Durant) after trading for Davis. That $5 million Luol Deng is owed really hurts them here. They'd be looking at around $26 million salary cap space if they just did the trade for Davis without Hill, and that would be with renouncing Zubac and letting him walk. That's not getting you Kawhi, KD, Boogie, Klay, Kemba, or Butler. Even if you do the trade while taking Hill though you're still looking at around $12.5 million capspace without renouncing Zubac, which would be enough to land a nice supporting player. Then you trade Hill's expiring for another supporting guy in the summer after free agency or during next season.
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Tanking for Davis.
Could several teams, example Knicks, Cavs, Suns begin to tank much harder then they have been in hopes of trading a package including the #1 overall to New Orleans for Davis.
I dont think theyd trade the #1 overall pick for a Davis rental since he wouldn’t sign long term with a team that had one of the worst records, but regardless, tanking is less effective starting this year. The worst record in the league goes from a 1 in 4 chance to a 1 in 7 chance of winning the draft lottery. Iirc the bottom 3 teams all have an equal amount of ping pong balls.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind AD in New York. Prefer it than Boston for sure lol. Bring life back to them
True, but maybe all the more reason to tank. #1 or #2 overall yes it seems the Tankers would want Dukie Boi or maybe the Gonzaga part Jap player.
If a team ends up with say a 3 4 or 5 pick that could be attractive to New Orleans in a trade. Much moreso then the Lakers garbage offer and may give said team a leg up on other competers for Davis. Of course IF Davis is determined to be a Laker got then yes it's a moot point. Could it be the Nephew has already hooked up with Magic and LeBron in a committed 3 way and Davis wants in too? So the Lakers go over the cap, why should they care?
Yeah I agree a top 5 pick this year is way better than any of the Laker scrubs being offered but I don’t think a team (other than maybe the Knicks) trades it for Davis. There’s for example no way Davis would stay in Phoenix past 2020 so they wouldn’t trade a pick for him.
Just my personal opinion not the popular opinion but I think Ja Morant and R.J. Barrett (the Duke star who’s not fat) are the best prospects this year. Gonzaga players regularly blow once they get to the NBA and I don’t see Zion having a natural position in the pros.
Sounds like maybe the Pels were ing the Lakers around, asking for more and more. If so, that's great. them and their tampering.
I still wish just to complete it Dell would ask for LeBron.
Then *leak* it out to New Orleans beat writers like ic does with the LA media lapdogs.
Would be epic.
Pacer fans are some ruthless vatos
Ingram knows it's BS though; he's smart enough to understand the Pelicans don't want his ass.
Ingram would love playing for the Pelicans, tbh..he could drop his empty stats and inefficient mid-range Js all night without any pressure, like Dallas Harrison Barnes..he doesn't seem like the type who cares about being in LA..
Kuzma and Lonzo would have a meltdown if they have to leave LA, though
He’s been playing better since the trade rumors, BI definitely wants to get out of LA and get his numbers. He’s due for a contract soon, so it checks out.
Giving up picks get you ant Davis
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