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Get the DLC
inb4 "well as long as you're getting bloodborne, go ahead"
Get the DLC
Man this thread is sad to go back and read because of the Steam Box hype. Not that I wanted one of those little pieces of but damn I was looking forward to seeing Linux became a legit gaming OS. Now instead I'm going to have to install Windows 10 soon to get DX12 support for Shadow of the Tomb Raider (game performs like absolute in DX11). Oh well, at least I can pirate Forza and Gears 4 once I do.
this thread is sad because symple has some posts
Damn don't tell me symple died or something
no activity here in 2+ years now
John Linneman from Digital Foundry claims PS5 will absolutely have PS4 BC.
DF is a great source. They're the ones Microsoft gave early access to the XBox One X a few months before it launched.
great. im gonna have to buy a ps5, aren't i...
i buy a console for the first time in a decade and of course now... NOW sony decides backwards compatibility is good
Just buy PS5 when it's cheap. Not like you're going to run out of great PS4 games to play jumping on the system this late in its lifetime.
Yeah, no point in buying a console when it's first released and all it has is a small library of $60 games.
true true
i'm just butthurt because at the time i bought my ps3, they were no longer backwards compatible, and i had a pretty good ps2 library that i was annoyed to have to set aside (or go through the hassle of switching systems). and same story with the ps4, forcing me to hang on to my mammoth sized ps3 in the meantime..
it would just be nice to be able to dump my old consoles instead of having them take up space
The BC PS3 were terrible tbh. They consumed a ridiculous amount of power for a console, we're talking like 330 watts in heavy gaming loads. They had terrible failure rates because of that high power consumption. Nothing like the original XBox 360 Xenons that had a RROD rate of something like 60% or so within the first few years (I had a RROD on four different systems before MS finally sent me an Opus board 360 that has been good since 2009) but there aren't a lot of CECHA01 (BC 60GB) or CECHB01 (BC 20GB) out there today. I think PS3 Slim got gaming load down to around 130 to 145 watts.true true
i'm just butthurt because at the time i bought my ps3, they were no longer backwards compatible, and i had a pretty good ps2 library that i was annoyed to have to set aside (or go through the hassle of switching systems). and same story with the ps4, forcing me to hang on to my mammoth sized ps3 in the meantime
it would just be nice to be able to dump my old consoles instead of having them take up space
PS2 had PS1 BC because the PS2 used the PS1's cpu as a sound chip, so you got emulation for free. PS3 didn't use the PS2's cpu/gpu for jack other than PS2 games and Sony was losing their asses on the PS3, so it's understandable they had to cut the PS2 hardware out to save costs. Sony was losing something like $250 on every PS3 sold for $600 back in 2006. PS3 BC never happened in PS4 because they used wildly different processors and the PS4 cpu was pretty piss poor even by 2013 standards when it launched. Which makes PS4 BC in the PS5 seem like it should be pretty easy to achieve. The PS5 cpu is rumored to be some kind of AMD Ryzen chip like you'd see in midrange gaming PCs today while the PS4 cpu is a dog mobile chip but of the same x86_64 architecture.
Buying the Slims is a great way to get a more refined version of the console that on average should also be more reliable, since Slim versions always correspond to node shrinks to the cpu/gpu. Those node shrinks make them consume a lot less power and make the chips much cheaper to produce, so you get big discounts from a company like Sony that wants to get consoles sold to as many people as possible even if it means taking a loss on each hardware sale since they get a sweet 30% cut of every game sale.
damn, thanks for the breakdown. im not knowledgeable on this stuff at all.
i still envied my friends with the BC ps3's, but only one of mine had his console fail. i've never had an xbox console, but yeah, RROD was absurdly common. i'm still shocked that consumer confidence wasn't hurt more than it was.
and yeah i remember hearing about how much money sony was losing on ps3 sales, but iirc they didnt care so much because they had skin in the blu-ray game too, and xbox was using HD DVD. people were buying ps3's just as blu ray players, as it cost about the same if not less than a pure blu ray player at the time
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Microsoft extended their warranties out to three years for RROD. Plus console failures weren't that surprising a thing years ago. For instance, every single NES other than the top loader released in the 1990s would get games stuck on blue screens and resetting after a couple of years of use. The reason was because they designed the system so that you'd have to push the game cartridges down like a VCR tape when you inserted them into the NES, which bent the pins on the cartridge connector. Anything but a perfect connection and the lockout chip (used to prevent unlicensed games from running) would freak out and reset the system. It's funny the only reason Nintendo put such a horrible design into the NES was to make it look not like a game console, since retailers would not stock them after the video game crash of 1983. So they tried to make it look like a hybrid toy/vcr. Then PS2 had pretty high failure rates too thanks to the lasers in the drives going bad. There would be such consumer revolt today if either of those happened in the social media / youtube era.
Ehh I know you're big into performance and frame rate, but I won't leave 7 till my hardware explodes. Sotr ran fine at 1080p on a 1060 3gb (and old ass sandy bridge i7), aside from the audio cutting out occasionally which I understand is a port issue, not performance. I'd much much much rather dropped frames here and there than losing control over my OS.
When my hardware finally explodes I pray Linux will have matured enough ...
i've been waiting for that for damn near 20 yrs back when the streaming linux console was about to get "produced" but it was all bs.
Do you really want all those games? Grim Fandango was a pretty cool game in the 90s so getting that for a dollar might be nice but otherwise that bundle is not really top of the line for indie games. When I think of the great indies games to come out this decade I think Firewatch, Monster Boy, Dead Cells (I know I scoffed it earlier but now that I have played it I'm very impressed), Journey, What Remains of Edith Finch, Braid, etc. Wasteland 2 looks somewhat interesting since it's by the original Fallout team, but if you're looking for great turn based RPG for cheap why not just get the real thing with Fallout 1 & 2 on GOG when they go on sale for $3 each? Any Windows computer from this century should run them.
None of those games are great games. Decent but not great.
Wouldnt buy it. If you dont mind used. Ill just buy used and buy games to make up for the difference
Agreed. These days with how cheap PS4 and PC games are it's hard not to have a backlog of nothing but amazing games, so no reason to buy big bundles of ok to good games.
yeah i hadnt heard of any of those games tbh
It's like the Lakers Godfather Deal of game sales.yeah i hadnt heard of any of those games tbh
Hearing ps5 is gonna be backwards compatible
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