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    Not saying he's wrong, but what's wrong with these people? This is not the way you get Venezuela -- or the region -- on your side.

    It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela.












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    US military lies to, suckers naive recruits into the Army, Marines, to risk their bodies and brains "to serve and our great country, to spread freedom and democracy ",

    when really the military is nothing but a resource extraction and protection force for the predatory oligarchy's amassing of Capital from wherever on the planet they can find it.

    After VN, and now Iraq and Afghanistan, you have to very ing naive and stupid to be "cannon fodder". to risk your body and mind to enrich the oligarchy.

    But DoD spends $500M? EVERY year on suckering cannon fodder

    The old VN era poster: "What if they gave a war, and nobody came?"

    Of course, Trash invading VZ would be a great distraction from Mueller bringing down Trash and his mafiya.


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    A lot of you guys are buying Venezuelan oil already if you use Valero.

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    Not much here on Guaido. What's his story?

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    alright, here's a mini-roundup of stories on Guaido:

    NYT describes Voluntad popular as "more hard-line": https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/w...story-bio.html

    CBC describes Voluntad Popular as "centrist": https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/juan-g...s-he-1.4990248

    wikipedia describes Voluntad Popular as "social-democratic": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Guaid%C3%B3

    a pro-Bolivarian take: https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/14218

    mintpress passes out the tinfoil, says Guaido has been grromed as an imperialist stooge for a decade. (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're *not* out to get you.) : https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-ma...leader/254387/
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    US's interest in VZ is strictly $$$, the oil.

    Both Dems and Repugs, MSM, all support "regime changing" Maduro behind the lie of "freedom and democracy" while the truth is It's All About The Benjamins.

    Above, Bolton blatantly admitted it.

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    A Forecast of Trump’s Coming Fiasco in Venezuela

    Just four months ago, President Trump said at the UN that

    he respected

    “the right of every nation to practice its own customs, beliefs and traditions.

    The United States cannot tell others how to live, work or worship.

    In return, we should only ask respect for our sovereignty.” Pootin disagrees



    “Unfortunately, it seems that these were just empty words.

    We know from what happened in Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. that this will not end well for Trump… or

    for the United States.

    We must leave Venezuela in peace!”

    concludes Ron Paul whom no one can accuse of being a defender of Socialism.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/02/07/a-forecast-of-trumps-coming-fiasco-in-venezuela/



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    St Ronnie the Diseased should have been impeached for Iran-Contra, but he was probably too far gone to understand.

    So that's Nixon, St Ronnie, dubya, Trash that were or should have been or will be impeached.

    Show how much Repugs LOVE American Values

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    You're full of it, boutons.

    The Dems are mostly on board with this and joined the GOP resolution criticizing hasty withdrawal from Syria and Afghanistan in significant numbers.

    When push comes to shove, it'a one big happy war party.

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    You're full of it, boutons.

    The Dems are mostly on board with this and joined the GOP resolution criticizing hasty withdrawal from Syria and Afghanistan in significant numbers.

    When push comes to shove, it'a one big happy war party.
    ... has nothing to do with my post, better luck next time

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    My bad, thought you were commenting indirectly on the present instead of spinning your wheels.

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    You're full of it, boutons.

    The Dems are mostly on board with this and joined the GOP resolution criticizing hasty withdrawal from Syria and Afghanistan in significant numbers.

    When push comes to shove, it'a one big happy war party.
    Truth bomb

    Demo party is new party of war.

    They go toe to toe with the MIC. They are actually the MIC puppets moreso than repubs now since Trump does what he wants and not what hes told (usually)

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    My bad, thought you were commenting indirectly on the present instead of spinning your wheels.
    I was posting directly after your Iran-Contra post about St Ronnie the Diseased as Iran-Contra criminal

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    You missed the point.

    The point was the past and current point man, Elliott Abrams , in connection with the delivery of "humanitarian" aid.

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    Michael Hudson's economic gloss of power relations between Venezuela and the US is typically interesting and limpid, but this odd detail related to BOE's theft of Venezuela's gold stood out to me:

    There was never real trust in the Bank of England or Federal Reserve, but it seemed unthinkable that they would refuse to permit an official depositor from withdrawing its own gold. The usual motto is “Trust but verify.” But the unwillingness (or inability) of the Bank of England to verify means that the formerly unthinkable has now arrived: Have these central banks sold this gold forward in the post-London Gold Pool and its successor commodity markets in their attempt to keep down the price so as to maintain the appearance of a solvent U.S. dollar standard?

    Paul Craig Roberts has described how this system works. There are forward markets for currencies, stocks and bonds. The Federal Reserve can offer to buy a stock in three months at, say, 10% over the current price. Speculators will by the stock, bidding up the price, so as to take advantage of “the market’s” promise to buy the stock. So by the time three months have passed, the price will have risen. That is largely how the U.S. “Plunge Protection Team” has supported the U.S. stock market.


    The system works in reverse to hold down gold prices. The central banks holding gold can get together and offer to sell gold at a low price in three months. “The market” will realize that with low-priced gold being sold, there’s no point in buying more gold and bidding its price up. So the forward-settlement market shapes today’s market.


    The question is, have gold buyers (such as the Russian and Chinese government) bought so much gold that the U.S. Fed and the Bank of England have actually had to “make good” on their forward sales, and steadily depleted their gold? In this case, they would have been “living for the moment,” keeping down gold prices for as long as they could, knowing that once the world returns to the pre-1971 gold-exchange standard for intergovernmental balance-of-payments deficits, the U.S. will run out of gold and be unable to maintain its overseas military spending (not to mention its trade deficit and foreign disinvestment in the U.S. stock and bond markets). My book on Super-Imperialism explains why running out of gold forced the Vietnam War to an end. The same logic would apply today to America’s vast network of military bases throughout the world.
    https://michael-hudson.com/2019/02/v...ernationalism/

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    So you are telling me that people supports a government with a more than a million inflation... yeah 1000000% per year?

    Wow and we complain about an insignificant 40%

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    So you are telling me that people supports a government with a more than a million inflation... yeah 1000000% per year?

    Wow and we complain about an insignificant 40%
    Maduro's 25-30% approval level is Macron-like, but the guy the US is supporting up got literally zero votes in the last election.

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    Pelosi backs the US coup:

    https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/2819-2/

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    Dem establishment is just a war-mongering, bullying, meddling, murderous, imperialist as Repugs.

    "Why Do They Hate Us?"

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    Why was Chavez loved, besides being "negro e indio"? He was able to divert part of the social product from energy kleptocrats to invest in the real economy and the Venezuelan people.

    The following quote is from the CIA factbook:

    “Social investment in Venezuela during the Chavez administration reduced poverty from nearly 50% in 1999 to about 27% in 2011, increased school enrollment, substantially decreased infant and child mortality, and improved access to potable water and sanitation through social investment.”
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/ve.html

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    that didn't take long


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