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    Does the league want parity or super-teams?

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    Does the league want parity or super-teams?
    I feel like the league likes parity, but the league loves the casuals more and the casuals love them some super teams and merch so they want super teams.

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    Maybe he can demand his way out of San Antonio

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    i hope he demands a trade

    then watch spurms fo trade him for a bag of condoms with wholes in it

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    I’m not against players wanting to be traded especially if their team is not making efforts to improve, just not to make any excuses like Kawhi did, and allow their team to explore the best possible trade. Just the same, I view star players like Durant as weak wanting to join a depending champion, or Davis in cahoots with other players to form super team. There’s nothing wrong with it, but they’re weak and it loses that persistence to be better, building from within. I have more respect with players like MJ, Duncan, Kobe, Dirk who stayed loyal with their team and able to win. They’re mark of true champions. I guess the millennial values change loyalty. I doubt we’ll ever see players staying with one team, instead hopping to other jobs frequently. I hope it changes Spurs view rewarding loyalty contracts especially like Gasol.
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    Let them do what they want - just don't expect historic rivalries, compe ive playoff games -

    epic battles and every team having a legit shot at a le.

    Do expect prima donnas rushing to be at the side of superstars, superstar prima donnas faking injuries, tiny injuries used as leverage over franchises to position themselves to be with their boyfriend prima donna-teams -etc...

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    I do understand this when a star player is wasting his prime when the franchise he is in can't or won't get their act together year after year.

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    The league should ban trade requests. Make player opt outs mandatory every two years in contracts.

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    Homeboy doesn’t appear to understand the fact that he has a contract with the club.

    Lol 30 days notice.

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    In the real world, you can get fired if you suck at your job. No mention of that.

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    "A normal person at a job, if they don't want to work at that job any more, they can easily put in their 30-day notice and go elsewhere if it's best for them," he said. "I don't see why we shouldn't be able to have that same right."



    If you want to leave your basketball job to go work for WalMart, Demarr, have at it. Nobody is stopping you.

    When a normal person breaks a contract, they get their asses kicked financially. When these guys under contract demand trades, they should be allowed to go. But they should have to repay the team they are leaving half of their current contract. Their team should get a credit for that same amount added to their cap space, and the team they go to should get a reduction to their cap space for the same amount. Then everyone would understand the true cost, and pay their fair share.

    So Kawhi would have had to pay the Spurs $9.4M, for breaking his contract.
    The Raptors would have lost an additional $9.4M of cap space, to reflect the real value of what they received vs. what they sent out.
    The Spurs would have received Kawhi's $9.4M plus an additional $9.4M of cap space, to reflect what they really lost and help them bring in additional talent to compensate.

    Lots of "normal people" continue to work jobs that they don't love, because they don't want to take a pay cut. Lots of "normal people" finish out contracts that they wish they hadn't made, because they don't want to get their asses kicked financially for breaking it. I think treating these guys more like "normal people" is a great idea.

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    "A normal person at a job, if they don't want to work at that job any more, they can easily put in their 30-day notice and go elsewhere if it's best for them," he said. "I don't see why we shouldn't be able to have that same right."



    If you want to leave your basketball job to go work for WalMart, Demarr, have at it. Nobody is stopping you.

    When a normal person breaks a contract, they get their asses kicked financially. When these guys under contract demand trades, they should be allowed to go. But they should have to repay the team they are leaving half of their current contract. Their team should get a credit for that same amount added to their cap space, and the team they go to should get a reduction to their cap space for the same amount. Then everyone would understand the true cost, and pay their fair share.

    So Kawhi would have had to pay the Spurs $9.4M, for breaking his contract.
    The Raptors would have lost an additional $9.4M of cap space, to reflect the real value of what they received vs. what they sent out.
    The Spurs would have received Kawhi's $9.4M plus an additional $9.4M of cap space, to reflect what they really lost and help them bring in additional talent to compensate.

    Lots of "normal people" continue to work jobs that they don't love, because they don't want to take a pay cut. Lots of "normal people" finish out contracts that they wish they hadn't made, because they don't want to get their asses kicked financially for breaking it. I think treating these guys more like "normal people" is a great idea.
    Care salesmen get paid on the cars they sell. Great idea to treat them like car salesmen. If you don't produce, you don't get paid.

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    White people say the silliest in regards to this topic

    Players can ask for trades, they've been doing it for 40 years..their team can decide not to trade them..asking for a trade isn't banned in their contracts..

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    That Compton education is showing.

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    ^^They aren't normal people

    Nobody is paying to watch you at your job, my guy..
    True - so why do these dudes (I know the answer) keep comparing themselves to average joes?

    I wish I could get into altercations with my teammates (co-workers) and not get fired. I wish I could put in my 30-day notice and still get my salary guaranteed for 2 years even if I leave the company or even if I just decide to stop working

    They aren’t normal and these privileged dudes complaining like they are Joe Everyman is what loses players support.

    I agree they should be free to move; just dont be colluding/tampering clowns about it.

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    The problem is most of the world does not operate under contract work. Most people are at-will employees so they can come and go as they please. In sports, you sign guaranteed contracts. The benefit is you get money, but you have to give something up to get the money, which is the commitment to play for a team. The NBA players want to act like they are at-will employees like most people when they are not. I have seen, for example, doctors that contract to work in small towns. If they sign those contracts, they have to comply with the terms and live in the little county until the contract is up or they have to face penalties for leaving to work in a more desirable city. NBA players want the ability to leave and play where they want and they want the money. You can't have it both ways in the real world. These guys are used to being told what they want to hear so they don't live in reality. If they want the opportunity to play wherever they want, then they need to start signing one year deals and live with the consequences of not have guaranteed money that binds them to a team for multiple years.

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    I think players should have the freedom to go wherever they want and I oppose any union or collective bargaining agreement that restricts compensation and the free market system. However, I do feel all this player movement is hurting the league in my view. For example, I didn't purchase the team pass this year specifically because of the Kawhi fiasco. They say the NBA is a players league but it's really a fan's league, just like every other sport. Without the fans, there would be no multi-million dollar contracts or endorsement deals. There doesn't seem to be an awareness by the players that they are accountable to us, the paying fans and they need to take greater care when deciding to switch cities.

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    Does the league want parity or super-teams?
    NBA Champions by era:

    80s- 4
    90s- 3(maybe 2 if Jordan hadn't been forced out of the league)
    2000s- 5
    2010s- 5

    There's been just as parity as ever in a league that isn't built for it

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    True - so why do these dudes (I know the answer) keep comparing themselves to average joes?

    I wish I could get into altercations with my teammates (co-workers) and not get fired. I wish I could put in my 30-day notice and still get my salary guaranteed for 2 years even if I leave the company or even if I just decide to stop working

    They aren’t normal and these privileged dudes complaining like they are Joe Everyman is what loses players support.

    I agree they should be free to move; just dont be colluding/tampering clowns about it.
    You're surprised that athletes in their 20s and early 30s that are the best in the world at a job that pays them millions have egos? of course they're going to lack some self-awareness, but the difference is that they can get away with this and nobody can do a thing about it since they're much more valuable at their jobs than any of us are..

    Also, the collusion argument is irrelevant to me..everybody in the NBA is aware of what's going on, any players or front office people can speak to each other behind the scenes, nobody can stop it..

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    You're surprised that athletes in their 20s and early 30s that are the best in the world at a job that pays them millions have egos?
    Not at all - Im surprised they are not more self aware and better at marketing themselves to fans to win support. This is a terrible way to go about it.

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    DeMar is courageous.


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    I don't think anybody has a problem with players requesting trades. What everybody has a problem is players quitting on their team with years of contract yet to still be played and asking to be traded because of loosing, don't like the city, faking injuries to accomplish said goal, refusing to play unless they are traded to specific destination, etc.

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    Anthony Davis's situation isn't a big deal IMO..he asked for a trade, they didn't trade him, it's all good..as long as he's still playing for them, he's earning his contract..he's still playing hard, clearly..

    The collusion is irrelevant..you don't think Rich Paul could make it clear to other teams that Davis won't sign an extension there? It wouldn't be difficult at all

    Kawhi was different..I don't think a player should get paid if he refuses to play..

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    If players don't want to be in those situations that i described in my above post, then don't sign multiple year deals! If you know that your not going to like san antonio due its ty clubs and nitelife, then it would make sense not sign here longterm. But these guys love guaranteed money like everybody else and trick teams into believing that they really like the team and city. Like a golddigging hoe that tricks an athlete into believing that she loves him but is already planning her exit strategy as soon as she marries him to take him for half of everything.

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