Porter with 37 points and 10 boards tonight...

[SpurPadre]

has scored in double figures in all 4 of his games with the Bulls and yet PATFO wouldn't bother with him. "But, but his contract tho! We can't ever take risks!"

"Let's crack jokes about making trades instead!"

GTFO gutless pussies smh.

[Pavlov]

"Let's act like we can go back in time now."

[Rusty]

“We don’t need him, we got Lonnie walker ”

[SpurPadre]

“We don’t need him, we got Lonnie walker ”

"He'll take shots away from Forbes, who tries hard and makes pennies on the dollar!"

[Spur|n|Austin]

Man you a lot

[SpurPadre]

Man you a lot

"Don't complain about my Spurs! "

[Spur|n|Austin]

"Don't complain about my Spurs! "

More like “be a man and stop crying on a forum like a whiny so much.”

But hey, whatever helps you get through this hard time in your life.

[SpurPadre]

More like “be a man and stop crying on a forum like a whiny so much.”

But hey, whatever helps you get through this hard time in your life.

Call it what you want, you're ing too and triggered by facts instead of making a cogent rebuttal. Why don't you be a man instead of a internet tough guy? This forum isn't just for kissing the team's ass like a blind homer.

[Dejounte]

Call it what you want, you're ing too and triggered by facts instead of making a cogent rebuttal. Why don't you be a man instead of a internet tough guy? This forum isn't just for kissing the team's ass like a blind homer.

No ones kissing this team's ass. But someone is being a dumbass cry baby and that's you. All we are doing is calling you out. As well as the other bags on this forum who do nothing but cry and troll....duncan2k5 and thegreat

[ZeusWillJudge]

I wonder if any other player ever had 30+10 within four games of the Spurs refusing to trade for them? This could be a Spurs milestone.

[SpurPadre]

No ones kissing this team's ass. But someone is being a dumbass cry baby and that's you. All we are doing is calling you out. As well as the other bags on this forum who do nothing but cry and troll....duncan2k5 and thegreat

How is it dumb to be upset about the team being too cautious to not trade for Porter, who would've filled an obvious need? To call someone out for that is ass kissing and hypocritical, they just don't want to admit it.

[UnWantedTheory]

How is it dumb to be upset about the team being too cautious to not trade for Porter, who would've filled an obvious need? To call someone out for that is ass kissing and hypocritical, they just don't want to admit it.

What is dumb is that you assume to know the inner workings of this FO or that of other teams. It's all speculation, so stop talking in absolutes. You assume they are being cautious yet could very likely have several other reasons for not making any random or rumored move this site constantly pushes. It can be fun speculation, but that is all it is. You are just being whiny. There is a difference.

[rasuo214]

Unless the Spurs were getting him for Gasol and Patty or the Wizards gave back Porter+ (doubt they would have included Bryant) for DDR then I'm not sure there was an appealing trade there.

[timvp]

Not that I don't enjoy observing a Spurs fan tantrum now and again but it turned out the Spurs couldn't have realistically landed Otto Porter Jr. What the Wizards got in return (Bobby Portis, a second round pick from a bad team and cap space) is better than what the Spurs could have realistically offered. Portis is a 24-year-old big who has potential to average 20 and 10 in the not too distant future. He's underrated -- he'd probably be regarded as a top flight prospect if he wouldn't have punched Mirotic in the face, tbh. In his first four games with the Wizards, he's averaging 19 and 7 in fewer than 30 minutes per game.

How could the Spurs have topped that offer? Gasol would have had to have been included but he wasn't even a true expiring contract. That $6M+ poison pill would have made the Spurs attach something even better than Portis. That would have been ... what? You're talking something like Gasol, White and a couple first round picks to get the Wizards to answer the phone. No way the Spurs should have offered that to get Porter. And with how the Wizards' roster is put together, they probably still take the Bulls' offer because Satoransky is a decent enough fill-in at point guard and they're stuck with John Wall for the foreseeable future so White isn't even that valuable to them.

[GusT15]

We had the same conversation with Chinook one month before the trade deadline.
Of course Otto Porter would instantly slide in the Spurs SF slot and possibly lift the team on another level (probably fighting for 3d seed instead of 6th seed).
Of course the front office knew that he was available and would help the team.

We didn't have the assets/cap space/young players to do that trade though so it is what it is.
When you're in the playoffs for 20 straight years it takes a toll on a team's assets,both draft picks,young players and cap space,we all know that.
Saying "Hey look what X player is doing after a trade" is like hiding behind our finger.

[Blackhaus]

Who cares about Otto, we didn’t have the pieces to make it happened and that contact is still horrible. Nothing to see here, move on

[r0drig0lac]

We had the same conversation with Chinook one month before the trade deadline.
Of course Otto Porter would instantly slide in the Spurs SF slot and possibly lift the team on another level (probably fighting for 3d seed instead of 6th seed).
Of course the front office knew that he was available and would help the team.

We didn't have the assets/cap space/young players to do that trade though so it is what it is.
When you're in the playoffs for 20 straight years it takes a toll on a team's assets,both draft picks,young players and cap space,we all know that.
Saying "Hey look what X player is doing after a trade" is like hiding behind our finger.

in general, maybe that makes sense, in the case of the Spurs, some decisions made as much difference when the lack of lottery picks.

[Dverde]

Man you a lot

+1

[Spurs Homer]

how many threads? how many trades that will never happen, how many times will "spurs" fans want a different team than what is now assembled?


Just jump on another bandwagon Fer chrisssakes -

you hate this team, you hate the FO, you hate the coach, you hate the players,

you envy every other garbage trade, you pine for every goddamn D-leaguer -

- just find a team you like and cry over there!

[Keepin' it real]

Wow, I thought Porter retired years ago. Great job, Terry!

[ZeusWillJudge]

Not that I don't enjoy observing a Spurs fan tantrum now and again but it turned out the Spurs couldn't have realistically landed Otto Porter Jr. What the Wizards got in return (Bobby Portis, a second round pick from a bad team and cap space) is better than what the Spurs could have realistically offered. Portis is a 24-year-old big who has potential to average 20 and 10 in the not too distant future. He's underrated -- he'd probably be regarded as a top flight prospect if he wouldn't have punched Mirotic in the face, tbh. In his first four games with the Wizards, he's averaging 19 and 7 in fewer than 30 minutes per game.

How could the Spurs have topped that offer? Gasol would have had to have been included but he wasn't even a true expiring contract. That $6M+ poison pill would have made the Spurs attach something even better than Portis. That would have been ... what? You're talking something like Gasol, White and a couple first round picks to get the Wizards to answer the phone. No way the Spurs should have offered that to get Porter. And with how the Wizards' roster is put together, they probably still take the Bulls' offer because Satoransky is a decent enough fill-in at point guard and they're stuck with John Wall for the foreseeable future so White isn't even that valuable to them.

People just don't understand the world of this team has been in due to cap space. And a lot of their cheap young players will be up for new contracts, so the pressure isn't going away. It's way past time for a reality check. This is going to hurt a lot of Spurs fans who have never witnessed a true rebuild. But if PATFO don't bite the bullet, it's going to be miserable for a lot longer.

[DPG21920]

Not that I don't enjoy observing a Spurs fan tantrum now and again but it turned out the Spurs couldn't have realistically landed Otto Porter Jr. What the Wizards got in return (Bobby Portis, a second round pick from a bad team and cap space) is better than what the Spurs could have realistically offered. Portis is a 24-year-old big who has potential to average 20 and 10 in the not too distant future. He's underrated -- he'd probably be regarded as a top flight prospect if he wouldn't have punched Mirotic in the face, tbh. In his first four games with the Wizards, he's averaging 19 and 7 in fewer than 30 minutes per game.

How could the Spurs have topped that offer? Gasol would have had to have been included but he wasn't even a true expiring contract. That $6M+ poison pill would have made the Spurs attach something even better than Portis. That would have been ... what? You're talking something like Gasol, White and a couple first round picks to get the Wizards to answer the phone. No way the Spurs should have offered that to get Porter. And with how the Wizards' roster is put together, they probably still take the Bulls' offer because Satoransky is a decent enough fill-in at point guard and they're stuck with John Wall for the foreseeable future so White isn't even that valuable to them.

So what you’re really saying is the Gasol contract is awful

[Chinook]

Not that I don't enjoy observing a Spurs fan tantrum now and again but it turned out the Spurs couldn't have realistically landed Otto Porter Jr. What the Wizards got in return (Bobby Portis, a second round pick from a bad team and cap space) is better than what the Spurs could have realistically offered. Portis is a 24-year-old big who has potential to average 20 and 10 in the not too distant future. He's underrated -- he'd probably be regarded as a top flight prospect if he wouldn't have punched Mirotic in the face, tbh. In his first four games with the Wizards, he's averaging 19 and 7 in fewer than 30 minutes per game.

How could the Spurs have topped that offer? Gasol would have had to have been included but he wasn't even a true expiring contract. That $6M+ poison pill would have made the Spurs attach something even better than Portis. That would have been ... what? You're talking something like Gasol, White and a couple first round picks to get the Wizards to answer the phone. No way the Spurs should have offered that to get Porter. And with how the Wizards' roster is put together, they probably still take the Bulls' offer because Satoransky is a decent enough fill-in at point guard and they're stuck with John Wall for the foreseeable future so White isn't even that valuable to them.

I don't think Portis has the value you're implying here. I really wanted him in the 2015 draft an all, but he's an expiring big who hasn't fully asserted himself yet. I'm pretty sure the Bulls would have dumped him for a late-first had someone offered. At best, I think Portis and the second equal the Spurs first. Obviously, you can't overlook fit, so the Wizards may have preferred saving money to getting a second first-rounder, but Gasol, Beli and both firsts feels like a far superior offer to a rebuilding team. It's even more the case if the Wiz have to re-sign Portis for more than the MLE.

[R. DeMurre]

The Wizards are truly a great example of how not to run a team. Mahinmi is being paid $16 mil this year and next for playing 14 mpg. Compare that to Patty Mills, who makes $11.5mil & plays 24 mpg and is the #1 target of PATFO critics. John Wall will make $38/$41/$44/$47 million in the next four years. Beal and Wall famously don't like one another or enjoy being teammates, but are still together. Portis will likely leave unless they overpay him. The Spurs, after losing Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Leonard, and Green in rapid succession are still in a better position that the Wizards, with a better record and a better future.

[r0drig0lac]

The Wizards are truly a great example of how not to run a team. Mahinmi is being paid $16 mil this year and next for playing 14 mpg. Compare that to Patty Mills, who makes $11.5mil & plays 24 mpg and is the #1 target of PATFO critics. John Wall will make $38/$41/$44/$47 million in the next four years. Beal and Wall famously don't like one another or enjoy being teammates, but are still together. Portis will likely leave unless they overpay him. The Spurs, after losing Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Leonard, and Green in rapid succession are still in a better position that the Wizards, with a better record and a better future.

so the basis of comparison now is the Wizards with the worst gm in the league? What's the next comparison? Orlando Magic? who cares about the Wizards? really?