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    Let's see - $27? billion or $0?
    That's pretending nothing else will ever happen again in LIC. I don't think you're that stupid. Are you that stupid?

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    That's pretending nothing else will ever happen again in LIC. I don't think you're that stupid. Are you that stupid?
    I guess I am - for thinking that any billions of $ is better than $0.

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    Right. I'm happy Austin seems to be getting off the incentive bandwagon yet the jerbs keep coming in. I think Williamson County is probably going to bend over for Apple though; Apple is definitely hurting with only $243 billion on hand.
    is that where the AppleU is going to be built?

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    I guess I am - for thinking that any billions of $ is better than $0.
    So you do think there will never be any more economic development in Queens, NY for the rest of eternity.

    That's incredibly stupid.

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    is that where the AppleU is going to be built?
    Think it's just an expansion of its operations center. Don't have the specifics ATM.

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    I guess I am - for thinking that any billions of $ is better than $0.
    You still evaded his point. It's not like businesses are going to suddenly stop coming to a region that is upper-middle class with a 3.4% unemployment rate. Your "27 billion" is also a projection from Amazon. Foxconn projected a bunch of tax revenue, too. How is that working out?

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    So you do think there will never be any more economic development in Queens, NY for the rest of eternity.

    That's incredibly stupid.
    It's a big loss, Pav - there's no spinning it. Better than hoping for some other company (and which company is bigger than Amazon and it's only going to get bigger - my uncle says his (Medicare) prescriptions are now being delivered from Amazon in single packaged units (more convenient/easier for travel) rather than bottles) that might or might not come for eternity. You know, a bird in the hand ...

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    I'll say again. The only reason republicans have a hard on for this decision is cause Boogeygirl was involved .

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    It's a big loss, Pav - there's no spinning it. Better than hoping for some other company (and which company is bigger than Amazon and it's only going to get bigger - my uncle says his (Medicare) prescriptions are now being delivered from Amazon in single packaged units (more convenient/easier for travel) rather than bottles) that might or might not come for eternity. You know, a bird in the hand ...
    Austin didn't give a about an Amazon bid and Apple just announced a campus that could expand to 15,000 employees with zero incentives from the city.

    LIC looks as attractive as ever to companies who might actually be able to negotiate and not simply demand fealty because they're large, prescription anecdotes nonwithstanding.

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    I'll say again. The only reason republicans have a hard on for this decision is cause Boogeygirl was involved .
    I don't know whether to be scared of this girl and her ideas and that so many of you seem to agree with them or to be happy that these RIDICULOUS ideas are being brought to light (instead of hidden agenda) so that the American public can see the direction the Dems are going. Probably the former because those crazy ideas have wrought the REAL loss of jobs to that area.

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    Austin didn't give a about an Amazon bid and Apple just announced a campus that could expand to 15,000 employees with zero incentives from the city.

    LIC looks as attractive as ever to companies who might actually be able to negotiate and not simply demand fealty because they're large, prescription anecdotes nonwithstanding.
    What is LIC - you have to explain to stupid ole me.

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    There is principle to being against it even if it's not the greatest outcome for the people in your area. Saying it's to save 3 billion isn't it. If you are a Dem then displacement should also not be a factor.

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    What is LIC - you have to explain to stupid ole me.
    Long Island City, the site of the proposed HQ2.

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    There is principle to being against it even if it's not the greatest outcome for the people in your area. Saying it's to save 3 billion isn't it. If you are a Dem then displacement should also not be a factor.
    You keep focusing on what AOC is saying and ignore there were other players involved in stopping this deal, namely the district's councilman who is the defacto "voice" of that district. If he ed up, then he'll get voted out.

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    both are worthless just like most held by those coming out of a 4 yr college. either way, no god damn degree is going to help me in the field i work in so what exactly are you trying to get at you weak ing troll?
    So you admitted you paid money for a worthless degree? Thanks

    bachelors definitely aren’t worthless. A lot of places require bachelors degrees, it really doesn’t matter the field. They just generally require a bachelors. Obviously some degrees are better than other such as CS, EE, ME etc

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    I'll say again. The only reason republicans have a hard on for this decision is cause Boogeygirl was involved .
    Boogeygirl is just the public face of her radical chief of staff. He took applications and recruited her to run. She will eventually say enough stupid for people to quit taking her seriously.

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    I don't know whether to be scared of this girl and her ideas and that so many of you seem to agree with them or to be happy that these RIDICULOUS ideas are being brought to light (instead of hidden agenda) so that the American public can see the direction the Dems are going. Probably the former because those crazy ideas have wrought the REAL loss of jobs to that area.
    What's scary about her ideas? 70% marginal tax rate over 10 million? Hmm. In the idyllic 1950s, we had a similar tax rate on income over 250K. Universal health care? This scary idea seems to work in every other developed country in the world, and was proposed by Eisenhower in those glorious days of the 1950s. Abolishing ICE? ICE didn't exist when American immigration was at its peak in the early 1900s.

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    Boogeygirl is just the public face of her radical chief of staff. He took applications and recruited her to run. She will eventually say enough stupid for people to quit taking her seriously.
    I don't see how she is radical when her ideas are either implemented in other countries successfully or have been implemented here successfully. I agree her GND timeline is unrealistic and aggressive, but I wouldn't consider being overly concerned about climate change (supported by a scientific consensus) to be "radical." George W. being overly concerned about Saddam having WMDs and being an existential threat to the US was more radical than anything AOC believes.

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    Speaking of Amazon, I am saddened by the news of Payless stores being closed. It was a source of cheap, convenient shoes for GROWING children for years.

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    Speaking of Amazon, I am saddened by the news of Payless stores being closed. It was a source of cheap, convenient shoes for GROWING children for years.
    This is why monopolies are bad. Amazon is consuming everything, translating into the "so-called" retail apocalypse that's seeing countless brick and mortar stores, from small businesses to large, having to shutter. Vacant and blighted buildings abound. But we don't care, as long as we can sit on our collective asses and order some cheap Chinese bauble that will be shipped for free!

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    What's scary about her ideas? 70% marginal tax rate over 10 million? Hmm. In the idyllic 1950s, we had a similar tax rate on income over 250K. Universal health care? This scary idea seems to work in every other developed country in the world, and was proposed by Eisenhower in those glorious days of the 1950s. Abolishing ICE? ICE didn't exist when American immigration was at its peak in the early 1900s.
    "The data shows that, between 1950 and 1959, the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid an average of 42.0 percent of their income in federal, state, and local taxes. Since then, the average effective tax rate of the top 1 percent has declined slightly overall. In 2014, the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid an average tax rate of 36.4 percent."

    https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-rich-1950-not-high/

    How does your tax change affect that because there only a slight difference currently. Also we live in a more global economy now. Therefore a high tax rate would logically hurt us more than the 50s. But hanging to them misleading and irrelevant 50s.

    Universal healthcare doesn't work with illegals, birthright, and for damn sure without the borders that Dem want to get rid of.

    Plus Europe is not working. They are declining even with the US paying for their military.

    "Last week offered fresh evidence that the most consequential historical shift of the last 100 years continues: the decline of Europe as a force in world affairs. As Deutsche Bank warned of a German recession, the European Commission cut the 2019 eurozone growth forecast from an already anemic 1.9% to 1.3%. Economic output in the eurozone was lower in 2017 than it was in 2009; over that same period, gross domestic product grew 139% in China, 96% in India, and 34% in the U.S., according to the World Bank."

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/incredi....co/UYoF29R8OR

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    This is why monopolies are bad. Amazon is consuming everything, translating into the "so-called" retail apocalypse that's seeing countless brick and mortar stores, from small businesses to large, having to shutter. Vacant and blighted buildings abound. But we don't care, as long as we can sit on our collective asses and order some cheap Chinese bauble that will be shipped for free!
    Online shopping is extremely "green". You don't like that?

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    I don't know whether to be scared of this girl and her ideas and that so many of you seem to agree with them or to be happy that these RIDICULOUS ideas are being brought to light (instead of hidden agenda) so that the American public can see the direction the Dems are going. Probably the former because those crazy ideas have wrought the REAL loss of jobs to that area.
    OOGABOOGABOO!!!!!

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    I like how all of rmt’s views are determined by anecdotal evidence involving things like stories she hears at the Jamaican immigrant joy luck club.

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