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    “Butter emails!”

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    Mueller has do ents proving that Stone was colluding with Wikileaks and Guccifer - to coordinate the release of the stolen/hacked emails -

    Trump: "I LOVE wikileaks!"

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    Mueller has do ents proving that Stone was colluding with Wikileaks and Guccifer - to coordinate the release of the stolen/hacked emails -

    Trump: "I LOVE wikileaks!"
    Also remember in Stone’s Indictment, didn’t it mention “Senior Trump Campaign officials”

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    The Carter Page FISA application doesn’t clearly show anything because it’s heavily redacted.
    My point stands.
    It's not even a point, it's sheer speculation that anything untoward is there.

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    Also remember in Stone’s Indictment, didn’t it mention “Senior Trump Campaign officials”
    Yes -

    a senior trump official - was DIRECTED - to contact stone -

    So either Trump or a trump family member colluded with stone/wiki/guccifer/russia

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    man, you are such a bore...
    That's my line, but turnabout is fair play.

    It's progress. Better than shrill cries of TRAITOR!

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    The former judge only has access to the same publicly released information you and I have on the application, he’s in no position to make definitive statements. Wittes is doing nothing more than carrying water for his former FBI pals.
    Yeah this judge looked at the fisa app as we’ve seen it, saw that it warned the dossier was political oppo research, and even though they didn’t specifically state the exact source, he doesn’t think there’s any wrongdoing in the way they disclosed the bias

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    LE gets leads from everywhere, anywhere.

    When the supplier of leads is former UK spook like Steele, why wouldn't the FBI accept the leads as worth consideration?

    RWNJ assholes think facts with political motivations must be ignored, rejected, denied and ridiculed as untrue.

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    That's my line, but turnabout is fair play.

    It's progress. Better than shrill cries of TRAITOR!
    ha

    fair enough!

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    60 minutes show tonight

    McCabe sheds a bit more light/clues as to the mindset after Comey was fired by Trump to obstruct the Russia investigation.

    USA patriots at the FBI and INTEL - who were the only thing standing between the real coup - Russia/Trump taking our white house - for Russia's benefit - and our Democracy.
    The Russian Coup has been wildly successful so far with Trump fulfilling Russia's agenda and 33% of the USA - aiding and abetting Russia's work for over 2 years now.

    Amazing & horrifying time our country is in now - and it is a time when people see and hear things with their own eyes and ears and flatly refuse to believe the things they are seeing and hearing. A time when the madman flatly tells his cult that what they are seeing and what they are hearing - is not really what is happening.

    In other times when our country was not easily bamboozled - this madman would have been exposed and run out of town in a heartbeat. In todays insanity - 33% of Americans instead turned against the media, the intelligence agencies and REALITY ITSELF - in blind loyalty to the lying con man.

    Incredible. Disheartening. Amazing. Unprecedented.

    It is slowly coming to an end and then the accounting and the facts to come out will have people denying they were this ing blind and gullible and stupid.

    ...but they were - and still are.

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    ...unfortunately- the battle is not yet over as this new AG piece of Barr -

    is ANOTHER obstacle and possibly another Russian/Trump plant that is only here to obstruct and cover up.

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    twice volunteered to wear a wire

    Its that bad Chris.

    “McCabe told him.... “ It goes that far and is not corroborated so, yeah.
    “Nothingburger” , in the parlance of the Orange coke head.

    But what is astounding is the incompetence this president has shown. So much so that the red team is in a panic trying to cover for the basic rules we live by. These are not crazy socialists like Cortez trying to clean up the orange mess. Now Cortez actually gets a say because of the upheaval and you.... get ready for 2020, when the tide turns back on your ass. It might make the overwhelming rejection of orange in the midterms look like a whimper.

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    A spokesman for Brittany Kaiser, former business development director for Cambridge Analytica – which collapsed after the Observer revealed details of its misuse of Facebook data – confirmed that she had been subpoenaed by special counsel Robert Mueller, and was cooperating fully with his investigation.


    He added that she was assisting other US congressional and legal investigations into the company’s activities and had voluntarily turned over do ents and data.
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...idge-analytica

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    In August, Sam Patten, a US political consultant who had worked for Cambridge Analytica on campaigns in the US and abroad, struck a plea deal with Mueller after admitting he had failed to register as a foreign agent for a Ukrainian oligarch.

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    ...unfortunately- the battle is not yet over as this new AG piece of Barr -

    is ANOTHER obstacle and possibly another Russian/Trump plant that is only here to obstruct and cover up.
    Barr won’t get in the way.

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    "The Journal reported that William Barr, President Trump’s nominee for attorney general, had

    sent the Department of Justice an unsolicited 20-page memo

    arguing against prosecuting Trump for obstruction of justice."

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...e-mueller.html

    Barr is not to be trusted with anything except acting as Trash's personal defense lawyer, which is how Trash wanted to use Sessions.


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    Barr won’t get in the way.
    I wish I shared that certainty - I don't.

    I see a cluster ahead.

    Barr angled his way into this job and convinced Trump that he was his man.

    Barr has knowledge of how to subvert the rule of law to suit his agenda - do not underestimate him.
    He can get Mueller's report and then make that report fit favorably in their constructed spin of the report.
    Worse yet - he can just leave all the evidence out and when the country reads HIS (Barr's) report - they will fail to see Mueller's evidence and then parrot the Barr/Trump/Cult line that there was not enough evidence.

    He can say that Mueller found evidence of conspiracy - but that the evidence only passes a "certain" threshold and not "enough" to reasonably convict - in which Trump and his cult can then spin into "no court would have convicted" bull .

    It appears that Mueller can carry the ball to the goal line but might still need Congress to help him keep Barr accountable. If Barr sanitizes the report - Congress will have to subpoena Mueller and have the world hear Mueller answer questions on how he found evidence - so that a crime - will still sound like a crime when it comes out of Muellers mouth -

    as opposed to Trump and his cult calling them "process" crimes, "nothingburgers" "routine oppo research" and all their other Russian sanctioned tactics.

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    I wish I shared that certainty - I don't.

    I see a cluster ahead.

    Barr angled his way into this job and convinced Trump that he was his man.

    Barr has knowledge of how to subvert the rule of law to suit his agenda - do not underestimate him.
    He can get Mueller's report and then make that report fit favorably in their constructed spin of the report.
    Worse yet - he can just leave all the evidence out and when the country reads HIS (Barr's) report - they will fail to see Mueller's evidence and then parrot the Barr/Trump/Cult line that there was not enough evidence.

    He can say that Mueller found evidence of conspiracy - but that the evidence only passes a "certain" threshold and not "enough" to reasonably convict - in which Trump and his cult can then spin into "no court would have convicted" bull .

    It appears that Mueller can carry the ball to the goal line but might still need Congress to help him keep Barr accountable. If Barr sanitizes the report - Congress will have to subpoena Mueller and have the world hear Mueller answer questions on how he found evidence - so that a crime - will still sound like a crime when it comes out of Muellers mouth -

    as opposed to Trump and his cult calling them "process" crimes, "nothingburgers" "routine oppo research" and all their other Russian sanctioned tactics.
    Trump is too stupid to realize pretty much everyone he hired or appointed didn’t get in the way. Rosenstein, Wray, and even that little elf Sessions.

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    Its that bad Chris.

    “McCabe told him.... “ It goes that far and is not corroborated so, yeah.
    “Nothingburger” , in the parlance of the Orange coke head.

    But what is astounding is the incompetence this president has shown. So much so that the red team is in a panic trying to cover for the basic rules we live by. These are not crazy socialists like Cortez trying to clean up the orange mess. Now Cortez actually gets a say because of the upheaval and you.... get ready for 2020, when the tide turns back on your ass. It might make the overwhelming rejection of orange in the midterms look like a whimper.
    Ok...

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    Trump is too stupid to realize pretty much everyone he hired or appointed didn’t get in the way. Rosenstein, Wray, and even that little elf Sessions.
    He is stupid - but I never bought that line that trump was too stupid to know what he was doing was wrong -

    he sure was aware of his crimes - he just doesn't give a about the law, right vs wrong, and truth or lies - he KNOWS the difference in all of these and is well aware of consequences -and getting caught -

    he just doesn't give a and thinks he is above the law and can just weasel out of consequences because he has done it all his life.

    Too bad for him that he entered government. The gravy train is over.

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    they laugh now while many like myself are in the shadows just waiting for something big from the left to sway us to vote against them come 2020. they have no clue. i see people daily and talk to left, right, libertarians, etc so i get opinions from a mul ude of different individuals. i doubt most here get that outside of ST. i'll tell you what, yall wouldn't like what i hear from those trapped in the middle or who claim they're libertarians.
    Last edited by koriwhat; 02-17-2019 at 05:49 PM.

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    He is stupid - but I never bought that line that trump was too stupid to know what he was doing was wrong -

    he sure was aware of his crimes - he just doesn't give a about the law, right vs wrong, and truth or lies - he KNOWS the difference in all of these and is well aware of consequences -and getting caught -

    he just doesn't give a and thinks he is above the law and can just weasel out of consequences because he has done it all his life.

    Too bad for him that he entered government. The gravy train is over.
    lmao look at this insider right here. tell us more jussie smollett!

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