so no update on white?
why do you guys want a playoff appearance? So PATFO can justify not making moves in the offseason and bank on Murray/white/Lonnie being healthy? The quicker this team faces a reality check for how poorly they’re built the better.
but our playoff streak
I just want to win the next one, that's it
You really don't seem to fathom what tanking at the current state the Spurs are means.
First of all,you don't tank mid season,let's get that out of the way.You tank in the off season or in the first month of the regular season.
Specifically in the Spurs case this last summer,if we wanted to tank,we should trade Leonard for young players/prospects/expiring contracts and draft picks.Not an all star contract and a low first.Then you trade LMA for a low 1st.
To tank this season,it means Popovich retires in the summer of 2018,cause he sure as ain't coaching a tanking team at 70. ,Bud couldn't stay and coach a tanking team at 50.
Let's dive even deeper.You don't tank just this year.You have to tank at least 2 years and that's practical whether you like to or not.Why? Cause you have a new coach,rookies and developing players and a team with no iden y/ambition/cohesion.
So you have tanked for 2 years,the Spurfans around the globe are depressed,Spurstalk is either empty or we're cursing each other every day on what went wrong,and you start the 2020-21 season trying not to tank.
So you try to sign a max free agent.How will that go?
So you tell kids that were losing for 2 years,"Let's win!".How will that go?
So you either fire your coach who led the tank or you tell him "Now you coach to win!".How will that go?
Tanking is overrated.We got Duncan cause we were lucky.We were lucky we paired Duncan with Robinson and we were already plus one star before Duncan.We were lucky Popovich was relatively young and hungry to coach and do everything he could to win.
We are spoiled man.But be careful what you wish for cause at some point losing seasons will come again whether we are tanking or not.And it's really not gonna be a pretty sight with how spoiled we are.
Yep. Me too. Being at the game vs Kawhitter at the AT&T Center was quite cathartic. Sweeping them would be ejaculatory.
i barely even watch spurs games anymore tbh. spurs went from having my three favorite players (timmy, manu, kawhi)... to having a player i've absolutely hated (DDR). if the spurs had landed siakam i'd be more interested.
long post. firstly, i was for blowing the team up last year. i did not think kawhi was coming back to play last season.
spurs still have time to tank this season... i'm not saying go 0-23 but a handful of losses can put them at 12th in the west.
replace DC & QP with young players... and give the young players on the team heavy minutes. give metu 30 minutes a game. is he ready? idc and more importantly it doesn't matter... sign melo to keep casual fans somewhat entertained enough to buy tickets... get those Ls...
it's not about drafting a david or a timmy... it's about putting the franchise in a better position going forward.
Yeah,it was a long post,and apparently (from your answer) you didn't bother to read it.It's okay though.
I don't want you to tell us who are your tank commanders man.Tanking is easy,come on.
What i would like for you to tell us,is,if you have any knowledge of a person in the Spurs Organization with a combination of the required executive power and mental instability to fire Gregg Popovich.
Somebody in the Holt family? RC Buford maybe? No?
There is not one person that can realistically fire Popovich besides him stepping down?
Right... So at this point with Pop aboard,we can't realistically tank,can we friend?
Not debating if we should or shouldn't anymore.I'm asking you.Can we tank?
Nice one. He on the training track
Looks atleast another week away
I understand the sentiment of wanting the team to tank and gain a better draft position, but that doesn't guarantee the team will "get on the right track" or find this savior everyone is waiting for.
I'd rather the team ride this season out (playoffs or not) and reassess their roster/future in the Summer with two 1st round draft picks and the flexibility to cut ties with some dead weight (Gasol, Mills, Cunningham and Pondexter).
Like I've said before they have acquired some solid (potential) complimentary pieces (White, Walker, Murray, Poetl and possibly Metu), so now need to find another quality prospect (at SF) and replace old, worn out veterans like the one's I mentioned earlier.
But, the cool thing to do around here is to on a top 5 all-time coach and one of the best NBA GM's ever. As if they are Scott Brooks/Ernie Grunfeld combo or something.....
Re tanking: I don't want to disparage Phiendix or any of the perennial bottom feeders with the charge of tanking, but when you keep hitting the bottom of the fish tank, year after year, you would think they woulld get some superstars again through the draft. It sure looks to me that being a lottery team year after year doesn't necessarily wind up with enough great players to win a championship.
Let the players do their best. If we wind up in the middle of the pack for the draft, we have a great chance to find some hidden gold because we have done it before.
People keep on wishing that the Spurs act like other tanking teams.
You got to realize that the Spurs just do things differently!!! Accept that reality and move on. Tanking is detrimental to players that are in development. It tells them that is okay to lose! It should be never okay to lose while wearing a Spurs uniform.
Moreover, have you ever heard of "tanking" in the context of any other sport? The NBA has created a culture of gaming the game - finding loopholes to exploit, from the front office to the court. I don't think the Spurs will ever tank, nor do I think it necessary. I think we can rebuild on the go. We just need to be able to re-allocate the salary dedicated to Pau and DeMar, and move Mills or Forbes. We should have moved DeMar prior to the deadline when his value hadn't entirely tanked...
In an era of MLB tanking and limited spending, here's an appreciation of the teams trying to win now
At least some teams are trying to put a watchable product on the field
by Jonah Keri Jan 16, 2019 at 2:56 pm ET
Astros and Cubs recently, Orioles this year.
NFL
Most obvious, Colts tanking for Luck
NHL
Penguins and Devils tanking for Lemieux
Baseball is a tankfest, right now.
Compared to the NBA, tanking in other sports is the exception not the rule.
I hope Kawhi's knees explode and bats swarm his twitching body.
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