The Lebron hate is hilarious. Yeah he’s a drama queen but he’s already a top 5 player ever. Gives back to the community, no off court problems with his personal life. Literally had the biggest hype out of any player coming out of HS and completely lived up to it. People nitpick the out of this guy. Don’t get me wrong I’m not a fan of him but some of you guys are blinded by hate.
just wait, i have faith in the Kobe cultists.
Gives back what? Tax writeoffs? Enchancing his brand with a school that is mostly taxpayer funded?
How well will his political preaching age? Off course he picked a certain climate to peddle his fake politics. There is not a real bone in his body.
Pretty sure any off court problems would be covered up by the sports media.
Nitpick? ESPN sucked his way too much. His HS years were a long ago. Who cares if he lived up to his hype or not?
- steroids
- cannot win a ship without HOF roster
- ugly
- bald
Pass
Team Lebron is not exactly shredding our arguments in here...
Of course i would still want him. LeGM would've traded half these bums for Davis because we have better prospects/win-now players and we're not LA, and we would be set for the forseeable future. plus at least we'd be getting some coverage. spurs win 15 of 19 and no one cares. spurs lose 5 straight, no one cares. no one cares about SA at allat least we would be in the conversation tbh
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Of course i would still want him. LeGM would've traded half these bums for Davis because we have better prospects/win-now players and we're not LA, and we would be set for the forseeable future. plus at least we'd be getting some coverage. spurs win 15 of 19 and no one cares. spurs lose 5 straight, no one cares. no one cares about SA at all
Yeah i am sure AD would want to come here...
Like LeBron is attractive to play with at his age...
the conversation, Spurs got rings. I don't like sports media anyways.
It's got 4 pages so more than enough. Brony lovers cannot se past the media hype.
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Agree. Only, he is top 2. It is between him and MJ.
No, it isn't.
MJ 6-0
LJ 3-6
Two of LeBron's rings were with the Heatles, the first of the Super Teams. He really only led his Cavaliers team to a le without a super team behind him.
He's a hard player for me to rate all time tbh. On one hand he's obviously an amazing talent with and led the greatest comeback in NBA history by beating the Warriors after being down 3-1. His stats are all time great and he will probably finish top 10 in points and assists and maybe rebounds? Idk about the rebounds part. He will play in the most post season games of all time. He is like a 16 time all star, 14 all NBA, 4 time MVP and 3 time Finals MVP, and has 9 finals on his resume.
Buuut there's just a part of me that is disappointed in him on th biggest stage. He should have more/or the very least equal amount of rings than Shaq. He's had better teammates than Duncan and yet has less rings than him. He has so much drama with him that it makes the season harder than it needs to be. He isn't really a leader except for 3 years on the Cavs when he came back. He's top 10 all time, probably top 5 but I would pick Duncan over Lebron to start a franchise. I would choose Bird, Magic, Jordan, Kareem, and Shaq as well over him. So to start a franchise I would pick him 7th.
I "hate" LeBron. But I try not to be blinded by that.
Try this: put Bird, Magic, Jordan, Kareem, and Shaq in last years' Cavs. Would they do better than LeBron? MJ, maybe Magic. The others? no way.
His numbers speak loud. Above all: the eye-test.
Better how? Could they make the finals in that crappy conference last year. Yes. Could they have had a better game 1? Nope. Duncan would've handled the loss better and not "fractured" his hand. But they got swept. Not much of a bar really. I think Shaq, Duncan, Jordan, Kareem would've done better by winning a game while Bird and Magic would've fared the same.
But like I said he's top 5 but from an owner and management standpoint, does Lebron really give his all for a team? And the answer is no. Jordan HATED his GM at least equal to Lebrons hate for Gilbert, but he stayed with his team and won 6 chips. Duncan, Bird, and Magic gave everything they had to their organization (even though magic had his diva and coach killers moments) Magic is and always will be a Laker.
Lebron is like Shaq. Who his home with? Cleveland? He left them twice so obviously he doesn't feel that way about the organization. Not the Heat either and definitely not the Lakers. The difference is that I didn't have to worry about Shaq showing up in the finals. He averaged like 33 a game in 4 outta 5 finals with 13 rebounds and 3 blocks. Those are just some of the reasons why if I was starting a franchise I would choose him as the 7th player all time.
let's not forget that LeGM played his entire career in the Eastern Conference and struggles to make the playoffs in his first season out West
So the Goldeen God just lost to the Pelicans and AD was in street clothes...
Lol people keep forgetting this. Its not because his current supporting cast is worse than the Cavs either
True. Imagine Tim Duncan in the east. He would have had 15 Finals appearances and people would be arguing whether he or Jordan is the GOAT.
Let us know which other top players make the playoffs with this Lakers roster and being out 20 games due to injury.
Certainly none of the current NBA.
Duncan, Wilt, other great team and individual players sure.
I don't think Jordan does.
First of all the Lakers would not have the roster issues, old bodies and free throw issues if it was not LeBron....
Guy picks his teammates.
Also less sucking from the media for your star = other top player more likely will go to LA.
Right. Tragic Johnson as GM is going to do it better with someone other then LeBron.
Next.
LeBron is an extreme case. I like my chances better with someone else.
I'll stick with LeBrons Before Team / After Team career results.
I can only imagine Kevina Durant, Harden, Westchuck and the rest of todays *stars* *leading* this Laker team.
OKC KD is fine, Westbrook is less of a diva.
I guess you didn't watch The Stat Padder the past couple seasons.
Yes they are doing ok now that they added PG and PG is having a career year.
LeBrons next best Laker player is ____?
I said less of a diva. Still true even with stat padding.
Yes they are doing ok now that they added PG and PG is having a career year.
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