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Bury him and his twin patty mills
Tonight epitomized why I feel he's a cancer to this team and one of the biggest reasons why we're such a mediocre team. It isn't his defense, which even his biggest defenders here like Chinook acknowledge is his biggest flaw.
No for me, it's his over-aggressiveness on offense. If we all acknowledge he's a role player who's only starting because Murray is injured and "spaces the floor" why does he continually get off as many or more shots as our 3 best players in LMA, DeMar, and Gay? He was 2-14 tonight while DeMar was 9-14 and Gay 5-9. It's not just looking at the box score, anyone can see these games and see that Forbes is selfish on offense and has atrocious offensive awareness. He needs to know to pass the ball.
It baffles me how LJ praises Forbes for not being scared to shoot when to me, it's that aggressiveness that is to the team's detriment as LMA gets less touches, relegates Gay to spectator, and keeps DeMar, our best ball handler despite his up against the Raptors, away from making plays. Truth is, his aggressive shooting isn't a thing to be celebrated. We'd be better off with a more passive Forbes if Pop insists on starting him the rest of the way. He should only take open shots as a last resort and never get more than 9 shots in a game. That's what I liked about Kyle Anderson. He knew his limitations and played to his strengths while knowing to facilitate offense to more capable players. Even Bonner, who when he started as a "floor spacer" knew not to jack up shots willy nilly.
Nothing gets on my skin in this game more than a player who thinks he's better than he is. And that's where we are with Forbes, who has fallen for Pop's infamous comparison to Curry. Pop talks about players needing to be over themselves, well what about Forbes? Now HE isn't over himself, Pop. The sooner we're rid of him as a starter, the better this team will be. You can point out other flaws in this heavily flawed team but not enough is said about Forbes being a big reason for what ails them, IMO. I look forward to the team improving over him in the offseason.
Last edited by SpurPadre; 02-26-2019 at 12:16 AM.
Bury him and his twin patty mills
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I wasn't aware this is an academic submission.
Hs a poor man’s Hero Neal, who was also cancerous. He is a forgery.
Bryntouchable works very hard. Have you heard that Pop thinks every shot he takes is going in?
Meh, Forbes' usage percentage is sixth on the team behind DeRozan, Aldridge, Gay, Belinelli and Mills. How much further down the list do you want Forbes to be? White will pass him soon so he'll probably end the season seventh. I don't see how that can be classified as over-aggressive.
Forbes is what he is: a one-dimensional shooter. That's all he's ever going to be. In today's NBA, such players are somewhat valuable but they have to actually shoot the ball. For a counter example, Cunningham has hit half his threes but that doesn't translate to value because he doesn't shoot enough.
I'm not a huge Forbes fan, I don't view him as a long-term starter and I acknowledge he played poorly tonight but I don't have an issue with how much he shoots the ball. If anything, he needs to shoot even more to increase his value. There's really no other way for him to increase his value given his physical limitations. He has a better true shooting percentage than Aldridge or DeRozan and in a vacuum, you take an open Forbes shot over either of those two shooting.
If Forbes shot as often as Kyle Anderson, he wouldn't make it in the WNBA given the rest of his attributes
He really needs to be relegated to 3rd string and should only see the floor for brief moments.
Remember when Forbes was a Spurs nominee for most improved player just two months ago? Good times.
If you were on an oppossing team - as long as he isn't getting open looks - you would be very happy with him hogging the ball so much. Of course he'll look good now and then considering he chucks so much, but any opponent would prefer him taking those shots over better players on the team.
Dwarves do not have more space in the league as important pieces unless they are anomalies like Isaiah or Lou (which are two of the most versatile scorers in the league, especially in ISO), even Curry becomes exploitable in the playoffs and would be seen otherwise if do not play on an ultra stacked team in relation to the own compe ion (see 0 fmvps in 4 finals played). JJ Re is a master of screens (and played with two of the game's best screeners in Joel and DeAndre), so he can be useful.
Shooters in 2019 must be guys that can not be exploited defensively, they do not need to have 50% 3pt peaks,they just need to be "non-exploitable" enough not to return all of their offensive production on the other side of the court. the best current examples are Joe Harris and Ladry Shamet, who have size and can shoot better than most dwarves in the league.
But, Pop thinks he should get a max contract. Then again Pop thought Pau Gasol deserved $16,000,000.00 to keep the bench warm. Retire Pop, retire!
DDR is shooting like crap and playing more than him.Meh, Forbes' usage percentage is sixth on the team behind DeRozan, Aldridge, Gay, Belinelli and Mills. How much further down the list do you want Forbes to be? White will pass him soon so he'll probably end the season seventh. I don't see how that can be classified as over-aggressive.
Forbes is what he is: a one-dimensional shooter. That's all he's ever going to be. In today's NBA, such players are somewhat valuable but they have to actually shoot the ball. For a counter example, Cunningham has hit half his threes but that doesn't translate to value because he doesn't shoot enough.
I'm not a huge Forbes fan, I don't view him as a long-term starter and I acknowledge he played poorly tonight but I don't have an issue with how much he shoots the ball. If anything, he needs to shoot even more to increase his value. There's really no other way for him to increase his value given his physical limitations. He has a better true shooting percentage than Aldridge or DeRozan and in a vacuum, you take an open Forbes shot over either of those two shooting.
If Forbes shot as often as Kyle Anderson, he wouldn't make it in the WNBA given the rest of his attributes
Forbes has had excellent games. Rodeo trip was for everybody (to me it all depends on DDR but that's me and not Pop, obviously he trusts him and is a HOF so he must be right). Once movement starts again being part of the offense, Forbes will again be hitting threes and going nicely to the basket on closeouts. Same for Beli.
White, Dijon, Mills, Forbes, Marco, and (hopefully) LWIV are a potentially first-rate backcourt group. We MUST move DDR and reallocate his salary.Meh, Forbes' usage percentage is sixth on the team behind DeRozan, Aldridge, Gay, Belinelli and Mills. How much further down the list do you want Forbes to be? White will pass him soon so he'll probably end the season seventh. I don't see how that can be classified as over-aggressive.
Forbes is what he is: a one-dimensional shooter. That's all he's ever going to be. In today's NBA, such players are somewhat valuable but they have to actually shoot the ball. For a counter example, Cunningham has hit half his threes but that doesn't translate to value because he doesn't shoot enough.
I'm not a huge Forbes fan, I don't view him as a long-term starter and I acknowledge he played poorly tonight but I don't have an issue with how much he shoots the ball. If anything, he needs to shoot even more to increase his value. There's really no other way for him to increase his value given his physical limitations. He has a better true shooting percentage than Aldridge or DeRozan and in a vacuum, you take an open Forbes shot over either of those two shooting.
If Forbes shot as often as Kyle Anderson, he wouldn't make it in the WNBA given the rest of his attributes
Mills, Forbes and Marco are all on my to replace list - terrible defenders who give back whatever offensive value they bring...
Demar is **not** the Surs best ball handler. By far. He's routinely picked. Constantly misdribbles. Loses control of the ball with regularity.
I've been very disappointed with his ball control.
Our best ball handler? , give me DWhite, Patty, Rudy, Marco, even Forbes.
Laughable that Demar is our best ball handler.
White needs to shoot more than Forbes. Every single game. Bertans also needs to shoot more than Forbes every single game. Though that one is on coaching. Pop needs to draw up some midrange looks for Bertans and have him run off double screens. Bertans should never be stationary in his 25 minutes of play.
Rudy can’t dribble. Take him off. Routinely fumbles the ball.
I wanted to start a thread about him about a month ago but i let him some games to see..... he's such a liability on defense and what i don't understand is him playing nearly 30 minutes a game and that's on pop.
He was pretty good offensively during three months but you can't play him 30 minutes maybe 15 for some 3's. For the last month he's shooting 37% on 2's and 32% on 3's, that's pretty bad ( under 30 % and 14% on 3's last two weeks) especially if you considers that's his main and almost strenght.
Last edited by duncan2150; 02-26-2019 at 09:46 AM.
LOL.... So does every opposing Guard's shot, When Forbes is guarding them.
It’s not Forbes fault it’s Poop and RC for making him play to damn much I blame them
I totally agree with you . Imo it's a shame that he is playing 30 minutes a night ( 28.9 exactly)..... and that's 100% on Pop.
Pretty much this. Forbes is a good value player. Playing way too many minutes though due to this garbage roster.
I think Pop encourages him to shoot. I think he'd be a nice player for the team with reduce minutes.
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