Hmmm... now if DJ comes back, I'm sure that he will be in the starting lineup. So that leaves DW4 to most likely move to the 2nd unit. If they can either get a wing via free agency, DD10 can move back to the two. Perhaps with DW4 playing PG with the 2nd unit will hopefully improve the unit(?). They would definetely be micro-ballin', lol, but hopefully with that, I can alo see a lot of ball movement & motion offense with that lineup. The defense... well... hopfully they can score to make up for it. Perhaps RG22 will move to the 2nd unit, which along with White, that would give them & JP25, some defense to work with. LW4 will have to work his butt off in the off season if he wants to beat out Forbes or Mills or even Beli (unlikely with him or Mills, though), to come off the bench with that 2nd unit. Unfortunatey, I'm not expecting any major changes to this team, unless Pop decides to retire, then the possibility for a shake-up is possibe(?). Gasol will probably walk; we may get a wing via free agency or the draft. Granted, this is all speculation, based on this team's history & culture, but the field is open, so anything is possible. We'll see. GSG!!!
I'm not sure if I'm in the minority or not but I hope Danny Green comes back. If kawhi leaves I can see us having a chance at him. And get rid of Forbes. He's cheap, so it shouldn't be too hard to get someone to take him.
So i'd like this:
Murray/White
Green/Mills/Walker
Derozan/Rookie Wing player hopefully/Belinelli
Gay/Bertans/Metu/Another rookie wing that can play the 4 hopefully.
Aldridge/Poetel
Hmmm... yeah, LDN would be an interesting take, & that is, will PATFO take him back, tbh. He knows the system; he balled this season; his defense is still good enough, but the concerning factor with him will be his age. He may start to be getting a little long in the tooth now, but he still has a couple of miles still left in the tank, lol. But if he's not a first choice for PATFO for a wing, then I can see him as a "second desperate option," if he's still available & on the cheap, as well. But, would Danny want to come back, or move on somewhere else or get resigned with Toronto? Personally, I think he loves SA! The team, the organization, the city... this is were Danny got his big break at, and a championship to boot. But yeah, we'll have to keep an eye on that to see where this goes. I'd personally prefer that SAS go after a younger wing to fill that void, though. GS!!!
I think Murray + White alone would help a lot. Probably 5-8 wins more at least. The issue is that’s a ton of pressure on them.
Beyond that, SA, now that they aren’t on their heels and have had way more time to plan need to pick a direction. If they want to winbuild (rebuild + win) they need to lean into that a little more and make some more shorter term moves. At the least spots 7-10 need to be over hauled.
Pau + Mills + Beli should all be gone.
They may be stuck due to LMA + Derozans deals, but if they can’t change that they can revamp 7-10 spots and make the team more well balanced.
Rudy probably needs to go too imo unless it’s a 1 year deal.
If they want to rebuild, that’s fine too.
But pick a direction and if it’s trying to win now to the best of their ability lean into it. I get they can’t give up tons of picks to do so because that’s foolish. But guys they love like Mills need to be made available and not held onto because they are beloved.
But they get a pass from me this season. They had a team built for Kawhi, had little time to plan and took a swing on winning now vs rebuilding that crapped out. But now they should be planning. They know what the team is, the flaws and should have a better understanding of how to build a team around DeRozan/LMA.
When you have a team that compliments a star like Kawhi then swap him for a wildly different player it’s not totally shocking that it’s tough.
Nope. LMA is far better with White.
How do we know that without seeing the new and improved Dejounte this year? Makes no sense to say that yet.
Looks to me like the major factor in how they approached the Nephew trade was that making sure Pop went out with a "winning" ball club even if that was a 5-8 seed for the next few years. Now they might not even get to that low bar....
Guys like Qpon, Dante, Pau being on the roster along with DWhite having to literally play amazing bball to seize playing time away from Pop favs like Mills/Forbes shows just how badly this organization needs a fresh look in how they operate...
Rebuild was always out of the question when they decided to pull the trigger on the Demar trade. Only hope is like you said, they strike gold with the 7-10 spots on the roster or RC pulls a rabbit out of his ass again with late 1st rounders. Pop moving away from the day to day ops also wouldn't hurt IMO.....
This was obvious since day 1, I don't know why people keep citing the Tobias Harris deal or whatever else for the Kawhi trade..Pop is playing out his final years, he wanted to stay relevant, he added an All-Star and thought he could fix his flaws..
Pop is the GOAT, he deserves to go out however he wants, even if it's going to hurt the franchise in the short-term..
The DeRozan trade wouldn't even have been that bad for this season's goals if they actually got some decent role players on the team, particularly wing players..
Yup - having the same core but having White + Murray and swapping Beli/Mills for more versatile wings and this team would be a 4-6 seed for sure.
the same core... with the departures of Manu, Parker, LDN & no. 2, just about completely sucked out the core & culture of this team & organization. I believe that is why they decided to keep 50 Mills... so that the culture & the core can remain in tact & put a "band-aide" on the situation to keep this team competative. LMA, to me, isn't that leader that can carry this team on his shoulders, on & off the court, consistantly, & DD10... well, the excuse would be that he's new, so let him become assimulated into the culture, core and eventually he'll be one of the key leaders of the team as time passes. This would have been DJ's first full year as a full fledged leader on this team, but a leader, in my opinion, that's still unproven to this point. With 50 Mills still around, if you will, he can still provide vocal leadership & mentorship as well. It appears that DJ wants to assume the role as this team's leader, full time. Hope that he can handle this awesome responsibility. As much as many posters and fans want Mills off this team because he does stink it up on the court, I gonna assume that PATFO & the team value his leadership, for what it's worth, & be a valuable asset in that vain. But at some point, granted, if DJ & White, etc., are still around, the torch needs to be passed on to these young lions as the core leaders to carry on the Spurs' Culture into the future (hopefully). GSG!!!
Makes more sense than having blind faith that Dijon is "new and improved." Dijon has never shown the BBIQ, court awareness or ability to set up his teammates that White has.
Meanwhile teams get players like Gerald Green, Kenneth Faried, Corey Brewer etc off the scrap heap. And we go get QPon and Cunningham. And others like Eubanks who are non ceiling replacement level players. And sit guys like Walker while teams play their rookies and get good production from them.
Not really. Other teams will get better. Lakers won't be forever. Clippers will get much better with their cap space for max players and being a destination market. Jazz will get better as their stars start getting respect, and if they sign a Hayward replacement/2nd banana. Portland may get better. Denver will certainly get better. Sacto will get better. We may be compe ion with NO and Memphis for pugatory for awhile if we don't construct the roster better for the modern game.
The Spurs have awful guard play and an unreliable bench. A healthy Murray and White make the team about 5 deep.
The core of LMA, Demar, Gay, Murray and White is solid. You could keep Bertans and Poetl as some bench youth to develop...9th and 10th men. The rest of the roster needs to be turned over. Do that and the Spurs are relevant without going through a 4 or 5 year rebuild. I hate how little defense and grit this group displays, but I do think next year's version could be a lot better with less than a handful of the right kind of role player.
The recent plays of LW4 is making me regret losing Green. I’m sure PATFO sees the same. Hopefully LW4 works his butt off and proves people wrong
This is the biggest misnomer from the apologists . . .
1. I don't buy that this team was ever built for s bag. They did then what they're doing now (acquired a combination of the best talent they could and players who fit their precious culture and "system", with little to no regard for fit), the differences are, they no longer have a superstar, core of 2-way players or continuity.
2. They had to have a strong sense during last season that he wanted out.
3. The roster construction in general was asinine. They shouldn't have needed to watch a season play out to know that virtually no 3-point shooting from their highest usage players, a litany of one dimensional 3-point shooters, no true SF and general imbalance, was insane.
And burned on his talent to boot. In his would-be MVP season, a while after the all star break when he was ripping off 30/9/8s on 50/40/90s he got cut back from FGA and overall touches so LMAs vagina could be more of the focus. Purportedly to get LMA ready for the playoffs. Major phuck up by CIA Popped.
After Kwas MVP level playoff performance got Zaza'd, we saw what a non leader LMA was.
It's not Pop's fault these guys can't hoop.
Well coming from an extremely low IQ, knuckle dragging, 5 year old idiotic, moronic, imbecilic, ignoramus I consider it a compliment. I sincerely hope your mommy will take you for Psychiatric help and see to it that you stay on your meds. And by all means stop sucking the s of the little 4 year old boys in your Kindergarten class. And may I remind you that I did not and never would ask you for an opinion on anything so in passing, child, let me say go yourself, doofus.
2 seasons too late.
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