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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...hile-u-s-slips


    merica
    "Death, no liberty, and no pursuit of happiness"
    "richest" nation in the world, but 35th in quality of citizen health and 41st in life expectancy
    prioritizing profits over basic health of its population
    Iceland and a tiny Southeast Asian city-state in the top 10
    profits over people
    system designed to make more money by keeping more people sick
    doctors making a million bucks in a week and bankrupting patients
    insurance companies bankrupting the nation's citizens
    private healthcare
    biggest fraud nation in history of mankind
    merica
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    Everyone dies.

    Health is largely personal choice.

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    Everyone dies.
    Let's hope sooner than later for OP.

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    Everyone dies.

    Health is largely personal choice.
    oh ok it then

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    Because so many are fat. Has nothing to do with quality of health care.

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    Stop eating, tbh

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    Poor diet is something I noticed in every dead end job I worked.

    Eating poorly = feeling ting = looking gross


    There is a larger problem and that is many Americans can't cook. As the percentage of busted families increases - bad habits are passed down.

    Also Americans are poor planners so buying groceries and making meals for the week ahead doesnt occur. It is all living in the moment. For gods sake having your junk food delivered is now popular.
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    I see these disgusting 500lb round fatballs riding the handicap carts at HEB and wonder how the they ever got that big...did it ever occur to them that getting that fat might not be a good idea?

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    You personally affected by global ranking?

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    I see these disgusting 500lb round fatballs riding the handicap carts at HEB and wonder how the they ever got that big...did it ever occur to them that getting that fat might not be a good idea?
    Marketing and catering to obesity is one reason.

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    Marketing and catering to obesity is one reason.
    no personal responsibility?

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    no personal responsibility?
    Personal responsibility in the age of BlackLivesMatter....

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    The far right will just blame the fatties and smokers and fail to acknowledge just how f***ing expensive health insurance is these days, especially after Obamacare you can't get a reasonably priced plan if you have a job, and if you don't have a job and you get an ACA marketplace plan then you better hope you stay unemployed or else the IRS will send you a letter saying you owe an additional $3,000 to "make up the difference"...

    ... this, and doctors charging f***ing $120,000 for a f***ing routine pacemaker surgery... he does 3-4 a day and only works 3 days a week... basically a million bucks and up every billing cycle...

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    You personally affected by global ranking?
    by the number? no. by the implication that we are doing a subpar job dealing with health? yeah thats pretty important

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    The far right will just blame the fatties and smokers and fail to acknowledge just how f***ing expensive health insurance is these days, especially after Obamacare you can't get a reasonably priced plan if you have a job, and if you don't have a job and you get an ACA marketplace plan then you better hope you stay unemployed or else the IRS will send you a letter saying you owe an additional $3,000 to "make up the difference"...

    ... this, and doctors charging f***ing $120,000 for a f***ing routine pacemaker surgery... he does 3-4 a day and only works 3 days a week... basically a million bucks and up every billing cycle...
    your pricing is bull

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    The far right will just blame the fatties and smokers and fail to acknowledge just how f***ing expensive health insurance is these days, especially after Obamacare you can't get a reasonably priced plan if you have a job, and if you don't have a job and you get an ACA marketplace plan then you better hope you stay unemployed or else the IRS will send you a letter saying you owe an additional $3,000 to "make up the difference"...

    ... this, and doctors charging f***ing $120,000 for a f***ing routine pacemaker surgery... he does 3-4 a day and only works 3 days a week... basically a million bucks and up every billing cycle...
    ?

    The issue is Americans incapable of making a sandwich, cooking a soup or creating a salad unless it comes boxed, canned or bagged.

    The average American would starve to death if a foreign nation attacked. So sadly is there a price for Military in this handicapped nation?

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    ?

    The issue is Americans incapable of making a sandwich, cooking a soup or creating a salad unless it comes boxed, canned or bagged.

    The average American would starve to death if a foreign nation attacked. So sadly is there a price for Military in this handicapped nation?
    I don't think that most people CAN'T cook, it's just that millennials (especially) are too lazy to cook most of the time. Myself included. But I can cook pretty damn good, except I always screw up rice but that's a minor problem.

    People would starve to death because of a lack of convenient access to food. Not being able to grow/raise their own food is different from not being able to cook. In an industrialized, urbanized society, there are stores, not farms and ranches. If you aren't willing to go out grocery shopping because you're afraid of getting shot or blown up by a tank, that's different from not being able to cook.

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    your pricing is bull
    It's not? My mom was charged $100K last August. And that was an insurance negotiated price. Her coinsurance was $1,000, fortunately, because that was her MOOP because of her top tier plan, but if you have a "copper" or "high deductible" plan, you might be paying $12,000 out of pocket or more. Most people can't afford that. That's a down payment on a ****ing house.

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    It's not? My mom was charged $100K last August. And that was an insurance negotiated price. Her coinsurance was $1,000, fortunately, because that was her MOOP because of her top tier plan, but if you have a "copper" or "high deductible" plan, you might be paying $12,000 out of pocket or more. Most people can't afford that. That's a down payment on a ****ing house.
    If you think the doctor is making a million dollars a week you are completely full of .

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    If you think the doctor is making a million dollars a week you are completely full of .
    The doctor makes a majority of that bill. Probably 55-60%. Yes, I know about malpractice insurance and all, but these doctors are ****ing rich.


    The proper solution is gov't subsidized medical school (no student loans) and public doctors with salaries ranging upwards from $150,000 per year based on experience and location. And regulate malpractice lawsuits such that the maximum tort is the price of medical repairs + up to an additional maximum of $100,000.

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    The doctor makes a majority of that bill. Probably 55-60%. Yes, I know about malpractice insurance and all, but these doctors are ****ing rich.


    The proper solution is gov't subsidized medical school (no student loans) and public doctors with salaries ranging upwards from $150,000 per year based on experience and location. And regulate malpractice lawsuits such that the maximum tort is the price of medical repairs + up to an additional maximum of $100,000.
    After all those years of schooling and residency, cardiothoracic surgeons earn a median annual salary of $448,793, which means that half earn more than this and the other half earn less. This is higher than the median annual salary for all physicians and surgeons, which is $251,578

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    Grease and fat is engrained in every inch of American society

    When I travel by car in US, I always pack my lunch as the only pit stops along all our highways and roads are junk grease heartatack inducing trash. Mcdonalds, bk, pizza hut, starbucks, thats all you find

    You cannot even find a single healthy option in any travel route.

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    Grease and fat is engrained in every inch of American society

    When I travel by car in US, I always pack my lunch as the only pit stops along all our highways and roads are junk grease heartatack inducing trash. Mcdonalds, bk, pizza hut, starbucks, thats all you find

    You cannot even find a single healthy option in any travel route.
    Been to Bucees?

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    Grease and fat is engrained in every inch of American society

    When I travel by car in US, I always pack my lunch as the only pit stops along all our highways and roads are junk grease heartatack inducing trash. Mcdonalds, bk, pizza hut, starbucks, thats all you find

    You cannot even find a single healthy option in any travel route.
    I don't think fat is the problem in this country. It's the ing sugar and corn syrup in everything. Seemed like all the beetus problems in this country started with the war on fat in the 90s when you had all this low fat come out that replaced the fat with sugar.

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    no personal responsibility?
    The term "one" means something.

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