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    Aldridge improving to the mean, same with Beli, and Cunningham being replaced with White and White turning into a good NBA players is the biggest reasons for the turnaround tbh.

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    Nice bump.

    Team's defense has improved since December to the point of becoming the 19th of the league (Def Rtg 111.3). There are more and more teams losing the playoffs train and starting to tank, which helps statistically the teams still in the fight. Anyway, Spurs got better in D and the team started winning more games. Marco's defense looks better as it does everybody's.

    Belinelli has found his shot and he's scoring some of the most unorthodox shots we've seen, despite the degree of difficulty. In the past, Belinelli used to score tough lay-ups, short shots, and even mid jumpers but he didn't take so many unbalanced threes. He's making them now but I'm not sure how sustainable is this in the mid-long term.

    Marco is a serviceable player this season but he's a Shooting Guard, not a SF. The guard rotation for next year is already packed so I'm not sure what could be his role next season. During the Rodeo Road Trip, the team will face continuously good teams for some weeks. I think those games will give us the measure of the team and the players.
    I could see LWIV potientially pushing him for his backup spot sometime next season, if LWIV continues to improve and Beli regresses.

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    He did very well in the playoffs 2014-15. .467 on 4.3 attempts from 3. Honestly, Spurs should have paid him the money to stay.
    They renounced everyone to get the cap space for Aldridge, they couldn't have kept him.

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    I could see LWIV potientially pushing him for his backup spot sometime next season, if LWIV continues to improve and Beli regresses.
    Beli may not be here next year. If they want to keep Rudy, they'll likely have to bump him from $10M to like $17-18M, and that money has to come from somewhere. Not even talking about Bird rights or Early Bird. I know we'll have one of those. I'm talking about the tax threshold. They may be able to squeeze it in next year, but the year after, DJ will be getting paid.

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    Beli may not be here next year. If they want to keep Rudy, they'll likely have to bump him from $10M to like $17-18M, and that money has to come from somewhere. Not even talking about Bird rights or Early Bird. I know we'll have one of those. I'm talking about the tax threshold. They may be able to squeeze it in next year, but the year after, DJ will be getting paid.

    -The cap is set to jump to $109 million with the luxury tax likely to hit $130 million.

    -The Spurs books stand at $110 million- Gasol's $16 million + $6.7 million (his guarantee)=$100,700,000

    + Gay (The most he could get, I believe, is $17,652,600) but that seems like waay to much money for him. But maybe a compromise is two years $28-30 million.

    =~$115,200,000

    +$9,000,000 for a MLE player= ~$124,200,000

    + 1 of the two first-round picks (they may stash the 28th pick or try and package them for a higher pick)

    either way, they should be safely under the luxury tax by at least a couple of million with a full roster.

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    Feeding his haters something long and thick tbh

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    The gots that were melting down on here aren't posting anymore for some reason

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    His regression was inevitable, but still stupid to have Belinelli/Mills/Forbes/Bertans on the same roster, any decent coach will expose them in the playoffs..

    Belinelli having a cult following is one of the strangest things on ST..they had to bench him and remove him from the rotation to win a le he's unplayable in real games for more than 10 minutes or so..

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    ^ Dedmon, Fathead, Raymond fan

    Basically a plus minus fan rofl

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    I'll never understand how this bum has a cult following on this forum he's so bad, watching him try to play defense hurts my heart as a basketball fan..I've never seen a Spurs defender as clueless as he is trying to figure out rotations..

    He has to shoot at least 45% from 3 to justify being on the court for a team with real aspirations..I don't understand how you can sign him when you already have Mills, Forbes and Bertans on the roster..

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    I'll never understand how this bum has a cult following on this forum he's so bad, watching him try to play defense hurts my heart as a basketball fan..I've never seen a Spurs defender as clueless as he is trying to figure out rotations..

    He has to shoot at least 45% from 3 to justify being on the court for a team with real aspirations..I don't understand how you can sign him when you already have Mills, Forbes and Bertans on the roster..
    thats been the headscratcher all along. i dont have a problem with having a patty/forbes/marco on your tea. besides patty, none are really being overpaid either. but why all 3 ...

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    ^^I've disliked Belinelli from day 1, but ya, his contract isn't bad at all and the signing itself wasn't bad in a vacuum..however, you waste your only $ on him when Mills and Forbes are already in your plans for the upcoming season? Just puzzling..

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    His regression was inevitable, but still stupid to have Belinelli/Mills/Forbes/Bertans on the same roster, any decent coach will expose them in the playoffs..

    Belinelli having a cult following is one of the strangest things on ST..they had to bench him and remove him from the rotation to win a le he's unplayable in real games for more than 10 minutes or so..
    I hate the redundancy on all those players. If i could choose, it would be to keep Bertans and Belinelli.

    But if there was an odd man out, for me it would be Forbes. I feel at least with Belinelli, he's a pretty decent passer and has shown plenty of times he can hit the big shot.

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    I hate the redundancy on all those players. If i could choose, it would be to keep Bertans and Belinelli.

    But if there was an odd man out, for me it would be Forbes. I feel at least with Belinelli, he's a pretty decent passer and has shown plenty of times he can hit the big shot.
    Bertans might be one of thge most overhyped Spurs players in the last decade, a decade that also includes the likes of "side show" Boban and Dejuan Blair. Bertans brings nothing to the table other than a three point shot but don't ask him to hit a shot inside of 20 ft. in the clutch because he can't do it.

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    Why does this thread keep getting bumped. Beli doesn't have anything to do with us losing. He is what he is, an okay role player who is also a journeyman at this point. He is also past his prime (which was likely toward the beginning of his career when he was on the Warriors).

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    I hate the redundancy on all those players. If i could choose, it would be to keep Bertans and Belinelli.

    But if there was an odd man out, for me it would be Forbes. I feel at least with Belinelli, he's a pretty decent passer and has shown plenty of times he can hit the big shot.
    i dont lump bertans in with those guys at all. he isn't is bad as them defensively and he plays a different position altogether

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    Bertans might be one of thge most overhyped Spurs players in the last decade, a decade that also includes the likes of "side show" Boban and Dejuan Blair. Bertans brings nothing to the table other than a three point shot but don't ask him to hit a shot inside of 20 ft. in the clutch because he can't do it.
    So wrong about Bert. So wrong.

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    So wrong about Bert. So wrong.
    Since missing the game winner badly in Toronto, 2-9, 6 points, 55 minutes. Start Bertans right now!

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    Since missing the game winner badly in Toronto, 2-9, 6 points, 55 minutes. Start Bertans right now!
    He's on a cold streak like the rest of the team. Trust the

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    He's on a cold streak like the rest of the team. Trust the
    I still wouldn't want him anywhere near the starting lineup.

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    Why does this thread keep getting bumped. Beli doesn't have anything to do with us losing. He is what he is, an okay role player who is also a journeyman at this point. He is also past his prime (which was likely toward the beginning of his career when he was on the Warriors).
    Because he was the only notable FA signing in the offseason on a team that already had 2 bottom-tier defenders on the perimeter in the rotation..

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    Because he was the only notable FA signing in the offseason on a team that already had 2 bottom-tier defenders on the perimeter in the rotation..
    Sure, but that's not his fault the FO gave contracts to worse players. Without some of Beli's performances we would have lost by 20-30 points. The guys we should really be angry at signing are QPon, Cunningham, and keeping Mills and Gasol. That's what's killing this team.

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    Because he was the only notable FA signing in the offseason on a team that already had 2 bottom-tier defenders on the perimeter in the rotation..
    Why should the Spurs care about defense when the league itself has done everything in its power to eliminate defense? To win in today's NBA, you have to be able to outscore your opponent. The only real crime here is giving away Green in the Leonard trade for virtually nothing. Two way players don't exactly grow on trees.

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    I'll never understand how this bum has a cult following on this forum he's so bad, watching him try to play defense hurts my heart as a basketball fan..I've never seen a Spurs defender as clueless as he is trying to figure out rotations..

    He has to shoot at least 45% from 3 to justify being on the court for a team with real aspirations..I don't understand how you can sign him when you already have Mills, Forbes and Bertans on the roster..
    This is the biggest recent blunder of Pop/RC, TBH.

    Made no sense wasting resources and a roster spot on a one-dimensional, atrocious defensive player (who is undersized) when a possible contributor/developmental player (ala Danuel House) was available for cheap.

    I understand Pop is trying to squeeze every drop out of the end of his career, but finding young, versatile, developmental talent should still be a huge, huge priority.

    Off-topic, but the only developmental guy they've built up recently is Bryn Forbes (another one-dimensional, atrocious defender that is a Patty Mills/Seth Curry clone)...
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    One of the worst rotation players in the history of this team..he has a few nice stretches during the RS and somehow has an avid following here

    You can't win anything with Belinelli in your rotation, as Philly learned against Boston last season(and didn't want him back) and obviously as the Spurs saw in 2014..he's so bad, it hurts..

    He's getting exploited by Malik Beasley and Craig, it's not like he's going against star players..Jesus..he better do SOMETHING positive in game 5, ANYTHING..

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