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LW IV is a conspiratorial scrub. I like Murray better than him.
Bledsoe signed a 4-yr extension with Milwaukee earlier todayAnd to put this argument behind us cause i really like DJ Murray,and i find tremendous value in ELITE defensive guards,i'll say this and close this whole debacle.
Brogdon is an RFA this summer and the Bucks have to choose on who to sign out of: Middleton,Bledsoe,Brogdon,Lopez,Mirotic (all FA)
If PATFO had not signed Mills and Gasol on those HORRIBLE contracts we could take a swing on Brogdon in free agency and have him NEXT to DJ and White in the rotation.
Is that better?
LW IV is a conspiratorial scrub. I like Murray better than him.
Yeah about 17 per,4/70 or something.
Dunno,i have a sneaky feeling they want to keep Brogdon over Middleton,but we'll see.
That creepy feeling is someone grossly overpaying Middleton. Brogdon probably better a lower contract with less interest around the league. Isn’t Brogdan restricted contract anyways?
Yeah he's RFA,first extension after rookie contract.
A worthless GM with cap space will overpay Middleton and then the Bucks will match anything Brogdon gets,that's what i think as well.
Right now:
Brogdon is dominating at the Staples Center.
Murray is sitting on the couch with his girl crying “muh leg!”
Strongly agree about the moon landing denier Walker.
Those two 60 win teams both had the #1 DRTG in the league. That's not a coincidence. Of course Brogdon would have helped, nobody would argue against that. The statement that Murray is a scrub, and that his defense doesn't matter is idiotic. Scrub posters say things like that, and then try to run away from it by moving the goal posts.
Brogdon is 26, and is probably out of upside. And he's likely going to get a contract in the neighborhood of 4/$60M next season. Murray is 21, loaded with upside, a near-elite defender, and will cost $2.1M next year. On a team with a legit PG, Murry would be a lot more effective. If he can consistently shoot 3's close to he did in the last half of last season, that plus his defense will have all of you pretending like you loved him from the start.
Learn to read,and learn to quote to correct poster you feel like you're in a disagreement with.
I never said Murray is a scrub.Not once.Never agreed with anyone calling him a scrub on this thread either.
If you wanna call out PB for calling him a scrub,be my guest but don't drag me into it.
So in your opinion, injury prone Lonnie "Cant" Walker and Yakob Poodle will both be better than Brogdon and Steven Adams.
Am I getting this right?
Could you point me to some evidence from this season that show that Murray isn’t a scrub? Oh, wait you can’t because he’s injured.
The idea that Murray has upside more than Brogdon is laughable. Murray will be lucky to be in the league 10 years from now as his injuries pile up. He’s a horrible offensive player that plays good defense. Without a jump shot, he’s unplayable for many minutes given the current roster construction. FACT.
Well, they are both only 20 (Walker IV) and 23 (Poetl), so they still have plenty of room to grow. Adam's is a lot better currently than Poetl, but Jakob has been stuck behind solid guys in Valanciunas (in Toronto), Aldridge and Gasol.
He'll can still get better and become a possible 12 - 8 - 1 type of center. His per 36 numbers aren't too far off of Adam's level of production.....
Walker's potential ceiling is higher and floor is close to what Brogdon currently is. He was a project before the mensicus injury set him back, so anyone expecting prime Ray Allen from him at this point is an idiot.
He has plenty of time to become a capable starter or possible all - star (if he works on his decision making and defense) especially with his superior physical gifts to someone like Brogdon.
Also, a better comp to Brogdon would be White since they are similar in play style, size, drafted spot and being seniors out of college.
Could you point me to some evidence from this season that show that Murray isn’t a scrub? Oh, wait you can’t because he’s injured.
The idea that Murray has upside more than Brogdon is laughable. Murray will be lucky to be in the league 10 years from now as his injuries pile up. He’s a horrible offensive player that plays good defense. Without a jump shot, he’s unplayable for many minutes given the current roster construction. FACT.
Pretty stupid to say someone is a "scrub" because they're out with injury. DeJounte is definitely on track to be a better player than Brogdon (who is a solid starting guard) even with the injury.
He's a pit bull on defense, has better physical tools and is 5 years younger than Brogdon.
Brogdon is a complimentary piece who isn't elite in anyone area of the game.
I know it is the cool thing to poo poo everything and everyone involved with the Spurs around here, but the slurping of other team's talent is hilarious.
What a bunch of takes in this thread.
You have a ton of "fans" here that only live to hate, denigrate and belittle anyone involved with the current team.
Can't even allow the young players to mature, develop and grow into a finished product without calling them "scrubs" (even though they are in the best league in the world) and sucking off other team's players.....
People in this thread are heavily overrating some of our young guns.
We're a franchise with 5 World Championships,we've witnessed Legends and greatness.
If you feel the need to over hype some of our PROSPECTS and PROJECTS of players cause we're not contending anymore,and it will give you a sense of hope for the future,by all means,go ahead.
But if you overdo it,your basketball takes start sounding like pure homerism tbh
So, what is the point of being a fan if you can't hope for the best out of your prospects? I don't think anyone has gonna too far with praising the young players.
And dwelling on what the Tim Duncan era accomplished isn't going to help nor is expecting that type of run ever again. What Duncan, Robinson, Ginobili, Parker, Popovich, etc. did was unprecedented for nearly any franchise not in Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago or Oakland.
Be appreciative of that run cause it likely isn't happening ever again, but also be hopeful that the young players reach or exceed their potential.....
FIFYCould you point me to some evidence from this season that show that Murray isn’t a scrub? Oh, wait you can’t because he’s injured.
The idea that Murray has upside more than Brogdon is laughable. Murray will be lucky to be in the league 2 years from now as his injuries pile up. He’s a horrible offensive player that plays good defense. Without a jump shot, he’s unplayable for many minutes given the current roster construction. FACT.
People here don't overhype our prospects, they are aware of the Spurs having the best player development program in the league. Spurs are #1 at shaping young talent and a lot of picks who are out of the league now would've probably became solid NBA players if they ran through this program. Walker and Murray are physically gifted, they just need to learn all the X's and O's and they will definitely do that here
Someone posted this on reddit...
I sincerely hope by "soon" he means October.Pushing to come back from an ACL in the same season you snapped it is beyond IDIOTIC,no matter how young you are and how fast you heal.Someone posted this on reddit...
Can a Doctor from the the Spurs medical staff shoot that idea down in Murray's head?
I doubt he’s trying to come back this season. They won’t allow him to anyways. Plus not enough games remaining to even fit him into the rotation without screwing things up. He probably just means until he’s back on the practice court
Soon probably refers to the re-launching of the Dejounte and Jilly YouTube channel
We had a debate on Clans YouTube channel last might about DJ or White.... because of stuff like this post, it leads me to believe DJ would be a lil about coming off the bench. His shot hasnt proven to be good enough to be a SG too... White I'm sure would take the bench role, but I feel the team is better with him on the court ball handling. Therefore I would only see no other option but to trade DJ an get a true SF.
He needs to prove himself both to Spurs and free agency first, coz right now his stock is a bag of peanuts
Forbes goes to the bench, and dejounte starts with white. No Need to invent problems that don’t exist.
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