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    Here is a Pounding The Rock article that talks about the Spurs needing a new centerpiece and how the Spurs won't be contenders as long as Pop is the face of the team.

    https://www.poundingtherock.com/2019...yZxM6beMZr0vLw

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    Well, Keith Bogans is available!

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    So all it would take is another Tim Duncan for Pop's coaching genius to make them good again? That's a shocker.

    When San Antonio adds someone that has traditionally been bad on defense, concerns are sometimes brushed aside because Pop will fix everything.

    The difference between Pop and most other coaches is that he has final say on pretty much everything. If the team adds a player, it's because Pop okayed it. The roster is his baby, just as much as what he does with the rotations. Nobody believes that Pop can make a winner out of any roster as much as Pop. The team had a talent drain (compared to all the other teams in the league) for two decades, because of chronic low draft slots. The same arrogance that makes him such a in interviews made him believe that he could keep going that way forever.

    He's a very good coach. But you can't overestimate the value of Tim Duncan.


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    Winning through the draft is soo freaking hard you have to be extremely lucky with multiple picks. And you have to get lucky when a once in a lifetime player is coming out. I don’t think people realize how freaking lucky we were to be able to draft both Timmy and Duncan.

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    That’s an idiotic article. The 2014 beautiful game had 3 aging all-star passed their prime and a budding superstar, but a great coach to make it worked. While supposedly the best player in the world can’t even make it to the playoffs. It’s a combination of both plus some luck to make it work.

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    Cue all the Pop bashers swarming in here thinking it’s a hate on “Poop” article...

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    Just someone's opinion who gives a

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    So all it would take is another Tim Duncan for Pop's coaching genius to make them good again? That's a shocker.
    Throw in a little D-Rob or Manu maybe.

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    That’s an idiotic article. The 2014 beautiful game had 3 aging all-star passed their prime and a budding superstar, but a great coach to make it worked. While supposedly the best player in the world can’t even make it to the playoffs. It’s a combination of both plus some luck to make it work.
    Did you read it? It wasn't a Pop bashing article.

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    Uh, no

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    Long article that just tells it like it is - of course give the Spurs say Durant and Irving they would be improved but not going to happen. The golden era of the Spurs is over period.

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    Winning through the draft is soo freaking hard you have to be extremely lucky with multiple picks. And you have to get lucky when a once in a lifetime player is coming out. I don’t think people realize how freaking lucky we were to be able to draft both Timmy and Duncan.
    Yeah what would the Spurs be without Timmy and Duncan

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    Yeah what would the Spurs be without Timmy and Duncan
    Imagine what would the Spurs be if we had two of him though!

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    Pop is gone after next year anyways and it's debatable this year that he is even a centerpiece. We have botched so many out of timeout plays that I'm starting to wonder wtf Pop is drawing up. But then I look at the disarray of the Celtics and I'm like, maybe coaching in general is not as important in today's game.

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    Pop is gone after next year anyways and it's debatable this year that he is even a centerpiece. We have botched so many out of timeout plays that I'm starting to wonder wtf Pop is drawing up. But then I look at the disarray of the Celtics and I'm like, maybe coaching in general is not as important in today's game.
    Pop is supposed to coach in the World Cup as well or is it just the Olympics? Is Van Gundy on the World Cup team? What's the deal?

    If Popovich spents two summers coaching international basketball he won't step foot in a basketball court for a couple of years after retirement.

    And don't measure coaching importance with Stevens.Not only is he elite at coaching in the defensive side and pretty worthless on offense,he also managed to lose the locker room this year.

    If you want to actually measure coaching importance take a look at Budenholzer.A focused,talented,hungry for success Head Coach is an extremely important part of a team.

    Just like Pop was 20 years ago...

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    Pop was suppose to get supreme players to want to play for the Spurs because he is the greatest coach ever. So far that list includes.......................................

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    Pop is supposed to coach in the World Cup as well or is it just the Olympics? Is Van Gundy on the World Cup team? What's the deal?


    And don't measure coaching importance with Stevens.Not only is he elite at coaching in the defensive side and pretty worthless on offense,he also managed to lose the locker room this year.

    If you want to actually measure coaching importance take a look at Budenholzer.A focused,talented,hungry for success Head Coach is an extremely important part of a team.
    Pop is coaching team USA only while Van Gundy has the World Cup team. Stevens hasn't lost the team, he has lost Irving. It was worth it to sign him at the time (bc IT was fools gold and nobody knew it better than Ainge) but I think he needs to leave Boston. Dude is toxic as a leader since he learned leadership from Lebron (who is also a toxic leader).

    Bud has done an amazing job with the Bucks. We shall see if it leads to playoff success though bc a second round loss for them would be seen as underachieving. Same thing with Brett Brown. And Nurse. And Stevens. All 4 coaches are under immense pressure to win in the playoffs to at least make the conference finals and only 2 of them can. Would Philly fire Brown if he loses in the 1st round? Does Kawhi blame Torontos lack of playoff success (by a second round loss) for the reason why he leaves them. Does Irving stay if he loses in the 1st round and help recruit AD? Can Giannis and Bud be taken as a serious threat if they bow out early? Lots of interesting questions that will be answered this summer.

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    Pop is coaching team USA only while Van Gundy has the World Cup team. Stevens hasn't lost the team, he has lost Irving. It was worth it to sign him at the time (bc IT was fools gold and nobody knew it better than Ainge) but I think he needs to leave Boston. Dude is toxic as a leader since he learned leadership from Lebron (who is also a toxic leader).

    Bud has done an amazing job with the Bucks. We shall see if it leads to playoff success though bc a second round loss for them would be seen as underachieving. Same thing with Brett Brown. And Nurse. And Stevens. All 4 coaches are under immense pressure to win in the playoffs to at least make the conference finals and only 2 of them can. Would Philly fire Brown if he loses in the 1st round? Does Kawhi blame Torontos lack of playoff success (by a second round loss) for the reason why he leaves them. Does Irving stay if he loses in the 1st round and help recruit AD? Can Giannis and Bud be taken as a serious threat if they bow out early? Lots of interesting questions that will be answered this summer.
    Brett Brown has turned out to be terrible at game time management. Philly fans are noticing it. Anyone see the end of that Philly/GSW game? They should replace him when he flounders in the playoffs again. Nurse seems capable, but nothing special. Coach Bud has a great chance to school these two.

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    Pop was suppose to get supreme players to want to play for the Spurs because he is the greatest coach ever. So far that list includes.......................................
    OKC was able to get George (and Melo). Our players need to help Pop recruit.

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    OKC was able to get George (and Melo). Our players need to help Pop recruit.
    The fact they didn’t run Demar by Rudy before the trade shows they don’t run moves through enough of their players.

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    Pop is coaching team USA only while Van Gundy has the World Cup team. Stevens hasn't lost the team, he has lost Irving. It was worth it to sign him at the time (bc IT was fools gold and nobody knew it better than Ainge) but I think he needs to leave Boston. Dude is toxic as a leader since he learned leadership from Lebron (who is also a toxic leader).

    Bud has done an amazing job with the Bucks. We shall see if it leads to playoff success though bc a second round loss for them would be seen as underachieving. Same thing with Brett Brown. And Nurse. And Stevens. All 4 coaches are under immense pressure to win in the playoffs to at least make the conference finals and only 2 of them can. Would Philly fire Brown if he loses in the 1st round? Does Kawhi blame Torontos lack of playoff success (by a second round loss) for the reason why he leaves them. Does Irving stay if he loses in the 1st round and help recruit AD? Can Giannis and Bud be taken as a serious threat if they bow out early? Lots of interesting questions that will be answered this summer.
    Couldn't agree with you more on Irving.He's been so passive aggressive and a total prick,especially in the last 3-4 games.

    From what i've seen in Boston,they have factions within the locker room.Tatum/Brown/Rozier vs Irving/Morris/Smart.Horford is neutral and nobody likes Hayward.They don't move the ball,they don't cover each other on defense.The young players are going iso too much and Irving refuses to takes a shot to punish them at times.
    That's one ed up and dysfunctional team.

    Coach Bud is by far the superior HC in the East.I really hope at some point we'll have him back in charge of the Spurs.

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    That’s an idiotic article. The 2014 beautiful game had 3 aging all-star passed their prime and a budding superstar, but a great coach to make it worked. While supposedly the best player in the world can’t even make it to the playoffs. It’s a combination of both plus some luck to make it work.

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    Couldn't agree with you more on Irving.He's been so passive aggressive and a total prick,especially in the last 3-4 games.

    From what i've seen in Boston,they have factions within the locker room.Tatum/Brown/Rozier vs Irving/Morris/Smart.Horford is neutral and nobody likes Hayward.They don't move the ball,they don't cover each other on defense.The young players are going iso too much and Irving refuses to takes a shot to punish them at times.
    That's one ed up and dysfunctional team.

    Coach Bud is by far the superior HC in the East.I really hope at some point we'll have him back in charge of the Spurs.
    Coach Bud is good at implementing systems, i still have some questions about his in game decisions and adjustments(for example i was watching the utah game and i think Bud lost that game, it was entirely his fault)
    A good coach is obviously very important but if you take current Giannis and you put him in place of Derozan Spurs have enough shooters to do exactly the same thing the Bucks are doing and i think the Spurs go to the WCF with a legit chance to upset the Warriors, thats how important a centerpiece is.
    Bottom line Pop needs to retire so the Spurs can tank.

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    Pop is gone after next year anyways and it's debatable this year that he is even a centerpiece. We have botched so many out of timeout plays that I'm starting to wonder wtf Pop is drawing up. But then I look at the disarray of the Celtics and I'm like, maybe coaching in general is not as important in today's game.

    Jerry Sloan's teams used to be able to get more possessions into the final minute than anything I've seen elsewhere. They were disciplined and ran that drill to perfection. An they did it year after year, which told me that it was all about the coach.

    The Spurs used to be known for their plays and execution coming out of timeouts. Now they have a hard time even inbounding the damn ball, and getting a quality shot is more the exception than the rule. Maybe I the "new NBA" coaches can't demand precise execution from their players, but I don't see Pop being engaged like he used to be. If that's true, then the margin between him and the other coaches just isn't as great as it once was.

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    That’s an idiotic article. The 2014 beautiful game had 3 aging all-star passed their prime and a budding superstar, but a great coach to make it worked. While supposedly the best player in the world can’t even make it to the playoffs. It’s a combination of both plus some luck to make it work.
    That 2014 roster was stacked as and didn't have extremely flawed stars like Aldridge and DeRozan.

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