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Makes no sense imo.
Yeah because we know Pop plays rookies in their first year most of the time.. Wasn't Murray benchwarming for washed up Parker and ty Mills his first year too?
Makes no sense imo.
This is so dumb no offense. Why trade him when you can have both? White is older than Murray - he should be more advanced.
But Murray has shown enough flashes that people should be excited SA has both to play together. Plus, Murray makes no money, you would get nothing for him that would be worth trading him for.
Stop being silly.
Don't be a re . I said Mills' offense is better than White's defense. I wasn't making an overall point.
For Point Guard, I'd say Derrick White is superior to everyone on our roster. I also see Dejounte Murray with a whole bunch of upside and we need his athleticism. I can see DW and DJ working together in the back court. DJ has an uncanny ability on defense and rebounding and can see him as the #2 guard. Chip will need to work with him on certain shots and shot selection but, I really think he is in the starting back court with DW. With DD, Bryn and Marco we are pretty heavy at the Shooting Guard position. And we still need a true, hard nosed, young, quick with length, athletic 3 and 'D' to go with Rudy Gay.
wtf has Murray done that suggests he's better?
I mean, he did make all nba defensive team. It was not some all star game fan vote either.
Look at the le of this thread. It's all about putting White against Murray. I'm simply defending the man who was unfortunate to get injured while pointing out the overhype.he developed a jumpshot. Padre says he doesn't hate on White but he attacks any poster who hypes up White (most of those posts don't mention Murray in the same sentence either).
Murray is a threat to White's development. And I don't mean that he's a threat to be the better player, I mean that it's very possible that White's role gets diminished and the starting PG spot gets gifted back to Murray no matter how well White finishes the season. that. White is just plain better and he is a joy to watch...why would any spurfan want some low IQ instagram baller instead?
Is White vs Murray the new Tony vs Manu?
White is a better defender than Murray.
DeRozan isn't going anywhere and he will be the starting two guard whether we like it or not. That means only one of Murray or White will be a starter. I highly doubt Pop will strip Murray of the starter's le he gave him before he went down. But White will be the Manu supersub role.
I honestly don't care about the White >> Murray, Murray >> White debates on here. Keep both. It's better than playing Mills/Forbes together another ing year. But give credit where it's due. Even just someone saying White is playing insane, you're already there to say "well he's not the big 3 or nephew so let's not go there yet." Sounds like you just like discrediting.
Maybe. But you are asking what Murray has done. I told you
That's what it looks like. Stupid really. I think Murray is better but I'm not doing it at the expense of disparaging the other, which is what the Manu vs. TP debate deteriorated to.
See now Derozan is the real problem for me. He's a horrible fit next to Derrick. Maybe he fits better next to Murray, but White has to start too. That's something Spurs have to figure out. But you're right, he isn't going anywhere unfortunately.
White is a better on ball defender,Murray is a better passing lane defender,they make an amazing defensive backcourt.
Just let Chip develop DJ's jumpshot,and the Spurs look great at the 1-2.
I asked what he has done to make someone think he is better than White. Other than rebounding there's literally nothing Murray is better at.
18, 6 and 9 against a bottom-feeder is insane? I just think that's a lowering of standards or a very liberal interpretation of an eye-popping basketball performance. It was a great outing, especially considering the intangibles but INSANE?
He made all nba defensive team already and he’s 2 years younger. Imagine White being 2 years younger and doing what he’s doing today. That’s what makes people like Murray.
thinking this one game is the only indication for how consistent he's been playing the entire season. Spurs are already in the lottery this year without White. He pretty much saved them from missing the playoffs.
Could be but, right now Pop is playing DD at the Three. I think he is better suited as a #2. I am glad it is Pop's problem to sort out who starts and who comes off the bench next season.....assuming DJ is fully healed with no complications. We're going to have a full back court for sure because I don't see Pop trading Patty, Bryn, Marco, DW and/or DJ unless it is a way to use with other players (?) and get a pretty good draft pick or in some kind of trade for the 3 and 'D' I mentioned above. It's all speculation for now. I just hope we keep improving for the playoffs. .
I hate to move Demar to the bench with that contract, but it probably has to be done. Start Murray/White. Move Forbes/Demar to the bench. Trade Mills and Belinelli.
The only way there's even a chance DeRozan leaves is if we get curbstomped in the playoffs with him stinking it up each game...and then we would need Toronto to lose and not even get out of the ECF which will cause got to cry to his uncle and bolt to LA. That would result in an opening for DeMar to beg Toronto to take him back. Pretty unlikely scenario but that's the only way he leaves San Antonio, tbh.
Really? He never stood out to me in that way. I don't ever remember thinking "damn he's really disrupting passing lanes". That's something I would say about nephew during his time here but not Murray. His rebounding is what has always stood out, and I think that that's what ultimately ended up giving him this undeserved reputation as some sort of defensive stopper.
White is better on-ball, better team/help defender. It's not even close, imo.
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