I guess Tony did in December 2012 with 27 points on 9-for-18 shooting, 12 rebounds, 12 assists and just three turnovers in nearly 43 minutes of floor time in San Antonio's 134-126 overtime victory over their in-state rivals. I didn't know that.
Well it's just a rhetorical question, since everybody's hype with White.
I disagree. Court vision and general feeling of the game, yes that you cannot teach. But defense? I think Pop could make a willing coachable player to become a better defensive player, i.e. Gay, Aldridge to name a few. Tiago was a very good defensive player, and he wasn't like that in Europe. Lonnie, with all his inborn attributes, can be a great defensive player once Pop is done with him imo.
Murray's measurements-- 6'5", 7' wingspan-- are unique. That, plus the fact that he actually enjoys & talks about defense convinces me that his great advanced stats and second team all defense award weren't flukes. He essentially has the length to play SF, but instead uses that physical advantage to defends guards who are typically 2" inches shorter, with wingspans that are often 6" shorter.
perhaps you can improve the defensive ability of some players (probably yes in most cases, although, not always possible), but the kind of package that Murray has is what makes his defensive ceiling so high (besides his positioning for rebounds), if he did not have one of the points cited, he could still be a good defender, but the potential ceiling would be much lower.
I guess someone is paying attention. Just testing. lol
You're going overboard with "trade the IG baller" this soon
Anyway, it is funny that posters here have easily forgotten how loose Murray's handles are. It would be stupid to watch D. White thread Manuesque passes to Aldridge in clutch time and think it is good idea to hand back the keys to post-ACL Dejounte just because he was anointed "PG of the future" two years ago.
Injuries happen and players get left behind-- and that sucks. By the end of this season/playoffs, White could be two tiers above the player Murray was last year.
I'm still rooting for Dejounte because the Spurs need to hit on every draft pick to have chance at getting back to contender status in the future. However I will riot if White has to take a backseat next year to him or Derozan. PATFO has to get bold for once: something gotta give in that back court and trading Demarre is the most logical choice..
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If CP3 and Harden can start together then White and DJM can as well and best believe the Spurs will have 1of the best back courts in the league in 2 to 3 years for sure barring injuries.
The thing with Patty is/was that he had tremendous value off the bench alongside Manu.He needed a playmaking guard to create for him so he could execute from 3.
They were a guard duo that destroyed so many bench backcourts through the years and of course they were instrumental on the demolition of Miami in 2014.
But everybody knew that Manu was on his last legs and Patty would be underperforming once Manu slowed down/retired.
So i guess i would prefer a 3/24 contract for Patty,to see how he performs AND have flexibility to add another combo guard next to him once Manu was gone.Maybe someone like Derrick Rose? Somebody else? Generally somone that could slash inside and create looks for Mills.
Fixed it
I'd say that R.C. and Pop deserve the credit or blame for anything that happens roster wise.
Presti wasn't the main decision maker and has made plenty of mistakes, himself, in OKC.
Lastly, I could be wrong but I think Kyle is still in the NBA? If you meant James Anderson, well he spent a solid 5 or so years toiling in the league.
That Jones fracture early on derailed his chances at a length NBA career.
From The Spurs Way Podcast: Spurs record with Derrick: 18-4... Without: 19-23.
Edit: FAKE NEWS!
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Derrick's played like 50 games this year, what?
Derrick's played like 50 games this year, what?
He's even started 39 games.
They are 30-21 when he plays.
Still pretty good. Pretty sure they're undefeated when loser Pau isn't within 1000 feet of the arena as well tbh.
He's even started 39 games.
They are 30-21 when he plays.
That only thing is a big thing... Murray at 24/25 will almost certainly be better than white
If that's true, the Spurs are going to have a damn good backcourt.
Probably. I used to be really high on him but he's ing annoying with the self hype and his obsession with coming off like a gym rat though. It's like bruh, you embarrassed yourself in Summer League and everything you did last season was due to your god given physical gifts. Since his rookie year, there's not one aspect of his game that you can point at that you're like "yep that's because of all those long hours in the gym". Now I just get a fraud vibe from him, tbh.You're going overboard with "trade the IG baller" this soon
I also actually do have a bad feeling that Pop will gift him the starting spot back and relegate White to the bench. Like if I had to bet my house on who starts next year, I'd bet on instagram baller. That's probably why it pisses me off so much when I read posters suggest that, bc it's stupid af but it's what will unfortunately happen.
shut up got
Not actually sold that it's a terrible plan. One reason we were so much stronger with the big 3 is that opponents didn't have easy stretches; Manu leading the bench unit was a killer. While you're of the opinion that White >> Murray, how do you feel about Manu vs Tony... It's really about what makes the TEAM more lethal. All of White, Aldridge and Derozan (and Gay, Bertans and so forth) need some ball to contribute to their fullest. Murray maybe a little less. Letting White dominate the ball for a 2nd unit, while leaving more touches to spread between Derozan and Aldridge, might well be more effective than having all 3 fight for the ball in the starting lineup. Especially as with Murray lesser offensive skills, he might not be able to run the second unit as effectively...
20 year old Murray is light years ahead of 25 year old White
Cool, get back when Murray averages 20 ppg on 65% shooting on the first 4 playoffs games of next season.
Less than six points in critical game 4 and 5
lol still mentioning instagram got in this thread when white is being exposed, exposed is still better then a non jumpshooting wanker
Sounds a lot like Parker in Game 5 in 2012 vs OKC. The game the Spurs had to have.
He's a ing sop re playing his first playoffs series. He shouldn't be depended upon to be the ing saviour of the team, yet he is. It trully is amazing that he even got us to this point. Are you seeing the show we are without him steading everything?
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