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    You beat me to it. Was just about to post that.

    Sadly, it's not surprising.

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    Crew recruits? WTF?

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    All of that for college admissions when college is the biggest scam in the world? when these kids could have just had a multi million dollar career without going to uni?

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    Considering white people excessive cheating, claiming of inventions they never did, white washing history.

    Would you consider the average modern white dude..dumber than the average minority. Honestly from experience, it seem to be true.

    I mean cultured white euros tend to be smarter but North Americans cacs though

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    1st world problems.

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    Tbh, most people would do this for their kids if they had the money and influence.

    Maybe not the men of the highest moral fiber as displayed here on ST, but most people would.

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    Tbh, most people would do this for their kids if they had the money and influence.

    Maybe not the men of the highest moral fiber as displayed here on ST, but most people would.
    This is pretty much true. Even for those without money and influence. Most parents will fudge on forms our outright lie if it means it will benefit their kid.
    This just happens to be a case at the upper end.

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    Considering white people excessive cheating, claiming of inventions they never did, white washing history.

    Would you consider the average modern white dude..dumber than the average minority. Honestly from experience, it seem to be true.

    I mean cultured white euros tend to be smarter but North Americans cacs though
    Idk. I do believe African and Chinese students perform better than American students regardless of their race.

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    Tbh, most people would do this for their kids if they had the money and influence.

    Maybe not the men of the highest moral fiber as displayed here on ST, but most people would.
    I can't see any world in which I would bribe a school half a mil to get my child into an activity she doesn't even perform.

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    This is pretty much true. Even for those without money and influence. Most parents will fudge on forms our outright lie if it means it will benefit their kid.
    This just happens to be a case at the upper end.

    The parents doing this isn't really as bad as it looks as it does for the universities that accepted the dirty money.

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    The parents doing this isn't really as bad as it looks as it does for the universities that accepted the dirty money.
    The paying of someone to change SAT scores looks pretty bad.

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    The parents doing this isn't really as bad as it looks as it does for the universities that accepted the dirty money.
    Universities in the US are corrupt AF, it's common knowledge

    I'm against college for a good reason, it's a money pit and the best jobs don't even require the degrees, just good experience and knowing the right people.

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    Universities in the US are corrupt AF, it's common knowledge

    I'm against college for a good reason, it's a money pit and the best jobs don't even require the degrees, just good experience and knowing the right people.
    College is still the clearest path to success. If one takes advantage of resources available, you will have an internship lined up. The portion of the College experience people don't consider is the meeting, working with the "right people"

    I generally agree and have also adopted your stance on the subject but College is also not pointless as some try to portray. When I consider the CS degree here locally, one can take half those courses at the local JC. On one hand you won't be able to take the upper level which are usually group/project centered (resembling the typical work force) but one can also dedicate all their time on whatever direction they are takint I.e. OOP versus wasting time with foreign language requirements, math, physics, and of course 2 years of general ed.
    Last edited by FrostKing; 03-12-2019 at 02:04 PM.

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    College is still the clearest path to success. If one takes advantage of resources available, you will have an internship lined up. The portion of the College experience people don't consider is the meeting, working with the "right people"

    I generally agree and have also adopted your stance on the subject but College is also not pointless as some try to portray. When I consider the CS degree here locally, one can take half those courses at the local JC. On one hand you won't be able to take the upper level which are usually group/project centered (resembling the typical work force) but one can also dedicate all their time on whatever direction they are takint I.e. OOP versus wasting time with foreign language requirements, math, physics, and of course 2 years of general ed.
    Why not take 1 year of trade school classes in ... Web development, OOP, Servlets, Databases, Data science/analytics ... heck COBOL, whatever they want ? It's all infinitely more useful than Undergraduate Studies 100 or English 101. Where universities scam students the most.

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    Why not take 1 year of trade school classes in ... Web development, OOP, Servlets, Databases, Data science/analytics ... heck COBOL, whatever they want ? It's all infinitely more useful than Undergraduate Studies 100 or English 101. Where universities scam students the most.
    I added this to my post:
    Finishing a University BA illustrates you are a well rounded student and thus allows you to change directions/fields/industries. Which such an expensive and time consuming experience should. But what if we cut out the fluff and thus trimmed student costs? What if I ONLY want to learn to program. Not even hardware, security, or networking. And especially nothing outside IT. Why can't I do that at a University?


    If I could do it all over again I would have just done even an ITTtech. And went straight to job experience. But alot of these options weren't around at the time.

    I considered a Java boot camp but the only one here locally is thru UCSD and it costs a couple grand.

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    I added this to my post:
    Finishing a University BA illustrates you are a well rounded student and thus allows you to change directions/fields/industries. Which such an expensive and time consuming experience should. But what if we cut out the fluff and thus trimmed student costs? What if I ONLY want to learn to program. Not even hardware, security, or networking. And especially nothing outside IT. Why can't I do that at a University?


    If I could do it all over again I would have just done even an ITTtech. And went straight to job experience. But alot of these options weren't around at the time.

    I considered a Java boot camp but the only one here locally is thru UCSD and it costs a couple grand.
    I went thru a Java boot camp in July 2016 complely 100% courtesy of my job (big bank)...

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    I went thru a Java boot camp in July 2016 complely 100% courtesy of my job (big bank)...
    In person? What was your experience.

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    In person? What was your experience.
    Yes, in person. The instructor came to the company site campus. It was our daily 9-5 work as junior level employees. It was hosted in a large team room. It was flat out dull and boring unless you're really into OOP, Servlets, and Front End. I wanted to sleep every day by 10:30 in the morning. By 1:45 I was cooked.


    Trivera Technologies was the host of the bootcamp, for the record.

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    and schools taught cursive for the longest time, even though people can't write in print properly.

    I have horrible penmanship, and even I think this kid's handwriting is re ed.

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    Yes, in person. The instructor came to the company site campus. It was our daily 9-5 work as junior level employees. It was hosted in a large team room. It was flat out dull and boring unless you're really into OOP, Servlets, and Front End. I wanted to sleep every day by 10:30 in the morning. By 1:45 I was cooked.


    Trivera Technologies was the host of the bootcamp, for the record.
    Obviously you picked up alot of knowledge but were you able to retain it. Would you recommend for others

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