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    According to Windhorst Spurs did offer SuperMax to Kawhi:



    http://global.espn.com/nba/story/_/i...agent-strategy
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    I guess you would've offered the super max with a no trade clause to quiet super star , his shady agent and uncle... glad you are not running the Spurs.

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    Raptors may have an easy road to the conference final. It could be Detroit then Indy/Brooklyn winner. We may see load management in the playoffs.

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    I guess you would've offered the super max with a no trade clause to quiet super star , his shady agent and uncle... glad you are not running the Spurs.
    You woudn't have minded and if you say you would, you're lying.

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    You woudn't have minded and if you say you would, you're lying.
    If there was a written stipulation in that contract that she would load manage her ass for a third of the season, then no I wouldn't give her the max.

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    You woudn't have minded and if you say you would, you're lying.
    Umm. If I had any indication that they were trying to leave SA,give the franchise a hard time, and not embrace being a Spur full heartedly. NO. I dont know the full story but there is a reason the Spurs didnt offer that up front and may jave pnly offered a Super Max without a no trade clause. Sure sign the Super Max with out it, we break uo I can at least trade you where I want to. Why would I sign you to a supermax and be stuck with a no trade clause liniting my options for market value on your 50M+ contract only for you to sit out seasons at a time getting therapy when you can play. Nah, I said what I said for a reason. Think smarter next time.

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    Umm. If I had any indication that they were trying to leave SA,give the franchise a hard time, and not embrace being a Spur full heartedly. NO. I dont know the full story but there is a reason the Spurs didnt offer that up front and may jave pnly offered a Super Max without a no trade clause. Sure sign the Super Max with out it, we break uo I can at least trade you where I want to. Why would I sign you to a supermax and be stuck with a no trade clause liniting my options for market value on your 50M+ contract only for you to sit out seasons at a time getting therapy when you can play. Nah, I said what I said for a reason. Think smarter next time.
    Even if he was sitting out 20-25 games a season, he'd still be better than 95% of the league's players when playing. And does it matter how many so called meaningless regular season games he sits out if he delivers championship trophies in the postseason? It was always meaningless regular season games when the big three sat out but when Kawhi sits out, he's killing his team, he's finished, [fill in the blank] Spurstalk cliche

    I would rather have a half-baked Kawhi at 50% than Demar DeRozan at 100% as he sits there eating through the Spurs cap space for the next three years before they re-sign him. It's not like the Spurs would have done didley with the roster without Kawhi. Aldridge is 34, DeRozan is a classic underperforming basket case, and Gay is a walking catastrophe waiting to happen. Give Kawhi the supermax with a no trade clause because the Spurs don't trade their own unless they request it and players don't exactly knock down Pop's door wanting to play for the Spurs.

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    I would rather have a half-baked Kawhi at 50% than Demar DeRozan at 100% as he sits there eating through the Spurs cap space for the next three years before they re-sign him.
    You can't make that point at the moment.
    Maybe it will be a valid argument in June,but right now you can't really support that opinion.

    We have to see what Nephew does in the play offs and how his body holds up in play off scheduling and intensity before saying that.
    As things stand right now in mid March,his quad tendon may or may not be still suffering from some kind of inflammation.He may be fine but saving himself for his new contract.Or he may have some other condition nobody knows about.

    But we can't speak in absolutes and compare him to any other player in the league cause there are many variables and things to be proven or disproven come May.

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    Even if he was sitting out 20-25 games a season, he'd still be better than 95% of the league's players when playing. And does it matter how many so called meaningless regular season games he sits out if he delivers championship trophies in the postseason? It was always meaningless regular season games when the big three sat out but when Kawhi sits out, he's killing his team, he's finished, [fill in the blank] Spurstalk cliche

    I would rather have a half-baked Kawhi at 50% than Demar DeRozan at 100% as he sits there eating through the Spurs cap space for the next three years before they re-sign him. It's not like the Spurs would have done didley with the roster without Kawhi. Aldridge is 34, DeRozan is a classic underperforming basket case, and Gay is a walking catastrophe waiting to happen. Give Kawhi the supermax with a no trade clause because the Spurs don't trade their own unless they request it and players don't exactly knock down Pop's door wanting to play for the Spurs.
    Ok. Well, I disagree then. 50M for a half baked Kawhi is terrible not to mention you get a guy who generally does not bring enhance or support the type of culture the Spurs want to be about. This is all mute though if Kawhi literally protests to sit out so he can take his $50M contract to LA. Like he basically did for his last 2 years on his contract. It was too risky and imo the only reason Spurs offered the Supermax was because Kawhi diminished his trade value. Unfortubately Demar qas the best they could do without a rebuild probably. I enjoy watching these guys play and seeing how well everyone gets along. Small victories in the regular season are more fun to see.

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    Y’all still talking about this quitter? Sheesh, let it go. Yeah it hurts and DeRozan isn’t the player Kwitter is but guess what, spurs franchise keeps moving forward and looking at another playoff appearance.

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    Nephew will miss RS games AND playoff games when he decides his next resting place for the next 4-5 years. His medical people have been driving the bus for almost 2 years and he still needs HEAVY load management.

    Sinking $220MM or $230MM in an unreliable person is bad business. Nephew's last two complete playoff runs (all the way back to 2015 and 2016) were inconsistent in results. Could not deal with the Clippers and the Thunder.

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    Nephew will miss RS games AND playoff games when he decides his next resting place for the next 4-5 years. His medical people have been driving the bus for almost 2 years and he still needs HEAVY load management.

    Sinking $220MM or $230MM in an unreliable person is bad business. Nephew's last two complete playoff runs (all the way back to 2015 and 2016) were inconsistent in results. Could not deal with the Clippers and the Thunder.
    Yeah, I was ride or die with Nephew before all the craziness , but he could have John Wall’d the franchise taking that supermax.

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    Yeah, I was ride or die with Nephew before all the craziness , but he could have John Wall’d the franchise taking that supermax.
    Strangest/biggest mystery injury? Nephew's quad or Wall's snapping his Achilles while "slipping and falling" at home?

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    His medical team isn't driving the bus, its his "team/family"..... the doctor in Philly was just a face.

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    His medical team isn't driving the bus, its his "team/family"..... the doctor in Philly was just a face.
    That doctor was the 5th face.

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    i think tony is more to blame than we know. and the spurs tried losing him to keep kawhi.

    if timmy or manu wanted to come back instead of retiring, spurs would’ve easily forked over $5 million.

    maybe PATFO knew tony’s impact would be nil... but even then, they were fine with giving gasol as much they did.

    if tony can say “my injury was 100 times worse” in public, who knows how much doubt he cast on kawhi in the team meeting. but whatever, what’s done is done.

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    i think tony is more to blame than we know. and the spurs tried losing him to keep kawhi.

    if timmy or manu wanted to come back instead of retiring, spurs would’ve easily forked over $5 million.

    maybe PATFO knew tony’s impact would be nil... but even then, they were fine with giving gasol as much they did.

    if tony can say “my injury was 100 times worse” in public, who knows how much doubt he cast on kawhi in the team meeting. but whatever, what’s done is done.
    Tony would be knifed in his sleep if they thought it could keep kawhi. If the problem started in 2013 or so fine, but why would KAwhi quit on the team in the year Parker was out for extened time and benched in favor of murray? Wasn't exactly a secret murray was the future. Parker is loyal, kawhi is a snake. Get used to it.

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    i think tony is more to blame than we know. and the spurs tried losing him to keep kawhi.

    if timmy or manu wanted to come back instead of retiring, spurs would’ve easily forked over $5 million.

    maybe PATFO knew tony’s impact would be nil... but even then, they were fine with giving gasol as much they did.

    if tony can say “my injury was 100 times worse” in public, who knows how much doubt he cast on kawhi in the team meeting. but whatever, what’s done is done.
    "Parker said that the Spurs did in fact offer similar money to Charlotte, despite what rumors were saying.

    Parker signed a 2-year $10 million deal with Charlotte after playing 17 years with the Spurs. The French site #TrashTalk translated Parker's interview from French to English.

    "The Spurs offered me the same thing (contractually) as Charlotte, but it was more about the role. It was not a question of money. And it’s important that people know this, because there are a lot of people who were “angry” at the Spurs, thinking the franchise had not offered me anything," Parker said. "Yes, they offered me something similar, but I did not want to finish (as an) assistant-coach."

    https://www.ksat.com/sports/it-was-t...rs-report-says

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    Tony would be knifed in his sleep if they thought it could keep kawhi. If the problem started in 2013 or so fine, but why would KAwhi quit on the team in the year Parker was out for extened time and benched in favor of murray? Wasn't exactly a secret murray was the future. Parker is loyal, kawhi is a snake. Get used to it.
    patfo was wasting kawhis time, they had 3 yrs to get rid of parker when they gave him that loyalty contract after the last championship

    clearly they kept on handing out loyalty contracts or bringing back veterans, while kicking younger players around the bush that was meant to be the future to be built around kawhi...

    the remnants of the big 3 system, was a broken system that was living on barrowed time due to kawhis emergence from role player to superstar eextending those 3 tosb careers passed it used by date

    then u have the LMA saga.. fck that clown only cared about his touches, instead of playing 110% whatever the stats was...guys a scrub


    kawhi wanted nothing to do with that coat rider kent,
    had he signed that supermax deal
    patfo still lowballs enrique say for minimum, if he signs it, that means 1 more year with the coatrider...doubt kawhi wants to deal with that again
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    https://streamable.com/g2mqt

    "Stolen" from Raptorfans.

    Must see TV.

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    "Stolen" from Raptorfans.

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    HOLY !!!!!!!!!!!!

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    apa, on a good day...

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    Oh, holy ! Instant classic!

    I love the "Raptor noises" at the end.

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